Tyson/Dave is the one I'm really invested in and is my favorite dynamic all around. The bond between them is just so rewarding to watch deepen, be it romantically or platonically. I just want them in each other's life. (After some much needed character development on both sides of course.) His is my favorite route, favorite character, best only pairing with Dave, makes me feel the widest range of emotions to boot. Just an all around flawed and tragic but likeable character. The only one besides Benson I safely classify under "protect at all costs".
A bit less serious, but I guess Jack/his knife. I really hope to get a chance, as a player, to introduce the two of them further at some point. Memphis/knife is another good one. All villains need to meet knife. Slowly. Very slowly.
Tyson easily takes first place, his development was satisfying, his charcter and the way he thinks and process things is interesting and amusing to see, and honestly I can't see Dave getting close to anyone as much as he did with Tyson, there is something special there
Orlando goes second, a total sweetheart, soft and precious ✨ a very affectionate and kind soul towards Dave, the drama of their "background" and how protective he is over Dave is endearing at the least, I imagine he is very fun to talk to as well , not to mention his other qualities(cooking/gaming/plush sleep partner/etc) he is a choice boyfriend/husband material 👀
Dean goes third, not only does his dorky flirting work like a charm, his plants and farming passion is charming , ... a home with plants, greenery , and a silver-tongued bear hubby? Sign me up.
I like how he cares for Dave's wellbeing and educates and guides him on "things" , how he looks out for his friends (Sal), his persistence and patience with Dave wins him many points too
The Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) is a trademarked psychological assessment tool that was devised by Katharine Cook Briggs and Isabel Briggs Myers. Having studied Jung’s theory of psychological types, they believed that his ideas were worthy of a wider audience and sought to refine them for practical purposes.
Theres a reason its not used as a profesional test. Its widely unreliable with huge overlap between the types giving diffrent results for the same person each time. It also can't be validated as it doesn't really measure anything.
16pesonalities.com is not actually a Myers-Briggs test, is a big 5 test masquareded as a MBTI, and from what i heard alot of people who take MBTI seriously aren't the biggest fans of 16personalities.com
Is there a list of all the questions I can try asking Oswin on day 8 when we first meet him? I already got a hand full of answers from him but I got mountains more of unanswered questions too. I wonder if there is anything more I could ask or if I should just give up or something...
One more thing... I just read how to get path B from the patreon page (apparently it is to let Hoss call out Benson's lie and admit there is another person in the mansion). Well I aint no snitch and I really dont feel like finding that part, loading it up, and going through that path manually to see if it is any different. Anyone did that though? Is there any big difference? I assume since C and D and E are death routes then B is also one? ((but no one died in it yet judging from the comments I read)). So what's the difference? Nothing yet but planned?
B is where Oswin is dead. Hasn't hit a terminal end like the other three, but there are somewhat significant changes without him around. You learn a bit more about Benson in his absence too.
grizz already answered this question some time ago in the comments, basically he said that this questions that you can ask to oswin are just more in the sense of world-building so you arent missing something in case you dont get all the questions you can ask him...
Dave - Paladin. Wants to do the 'right' thing and is considerably "Lawful Stupid"
Tyson - Rogue. Maybe Barbarian if only because there's not much going on upstairs but a whole lot of anger to work through, but stealing is the tipping point.
Roswell - Black Mage/Warlock. Any occult-oriented mage will do. Reasons should be obvious. Any high INT based class works well here.
Orlando - Healer. One of his costumes in beta (and reworked into the new sprites) hints towards this. He's pretty group mom anyway.
Dean - Druid. Nature boy through and through, but pretty resourceful beyond that.
Hoss - Bard. Reasons here should be obvious.
Sal - Fighter? He's hard to place given his physical abilities and personality sort of clash. But he's another protector-type role.
And of course, all this is how they stand now. How they shift post-story is more interesting but we're not at that point just yet for it to make sense :P
Dave i would say a cleric for his personality but with his role in the story an inquisitor would probably fit better.
Tysons a theif for obvious reasons.
Sal i would say a monk, quiet calm personality and willing to give people benefit of the doubt and lookout for people.
Hoss is a bard being an actor and all charisma based.
Deans a knight, lower background rising up to be somthing better (like joining the police force) but has a naive dutiful streak like when it comes to dave and dates it must be perfect and done properly. Can't get the princess till you kill the dragon.
Rosswel would probably be a mage.
Not sure about Orlando mabey a summoner or blue mage even a cleric with his fear of ghosts and more unholy things.
I'm usually really good at mysteries and puzzles but I'm always getting stumped with day 10. I cant save anyone because I don't even know the password for it. I tried everything. I even went through the whole novel twice. I don't know what I'm missing and I even tried to read between the lines. I swear I'm not overthinking this. Can someone tell me (without spoiling a lot) exactly which part of the scene/area I'm suppose to pay more attention to?
I looked through past comments and It got me even more stumped then before. I know I sound dense. Is there something I have to go back for? *Quickly saves day 8 for reference*
(Also thank you to Grizz for making it a puzzle type game with lots of mystery in a story. This is one of the most favorite games I like to come back to every so often)
I dont understand. Can you give me a more specific clue as to where i might find the right one? It was already hard figuring out the password to prevent benson from being dead. Does the password relate closer to Sal? or is it more toward near the vault. it doesnt need to be specific but i would like an idea to go off of instead of the same Quota "Dave's saying ' whats the worst possible outcome' " Im already racking my brain for this XD
Update: I've read the part where Dave said it but it doesnt say anything useful. Can someone message me to help me out a bit?
Re-Update: OMG I DID NOT EXPECT THAT TO BE AN ACTUAL PASSWORD FOR DAY 10. Im beyond shocked
Oh Tyson, such a little shit. I really like him, and I'm excited to see where this goes! Dean is also really nice and supportive. Great work with this so far, has fun 999/VLR vibes.
Read that Tyson's day 19 was put on hold for a little bit. That's okay. While I do like a few other routes, especially Deans, I just feel like Tyson's route is where I want to be invested in. He is like a puzzle that just fits naturally into Dave's life (and future). Or maybe he is just my type IDK :P
Keep up the good work. Your VN is always getting nice and/or long updates. Hope to see more of Tyson soon!
He doesn't know, but if you're on his route and have good affinity with him he does say he wants to go out with dave. So i would say at least bi but it would be more accurate to say unknown and that his facebook status would be set as 'complicated'.
Only ones used for testing. Trust that if you hit a point where it's asking for a password you either have been given the password already in some form or you're not meant to know it (yet).
Keep me posted how you find the game moving forward though!
Oh, so does that mean that Day 1, Day 2, and Day 3 do have working passwords, it's just that I have not been able to find them ?
Well, I guess I still have long ways to go. I have found every password from Day 4 onwards, and I had a great and enjoyable time doing so. Thank you for such an experience in your VN. Looking forward to Day 18. Keep up the awesome work ^-^
Day 1 and 3 have passwords but nothing in-text to give you an indication as to what they are. As they're really only there from me testing stuff and for me to keep testing stuff during development, I wouldn't worry about them so much as they'll be scrapped come full release.
Can someone help me find the third songin the music room and the CGs of the number 24 of memories and the number 12 of trauma, please, I was stressed looking for them.
I finally found out why the third song in the music room wasn't unlocking and it's because it was pointing to the wrong file. Expect it to be fixed as of the next Patron update but so long as you've heard it it'll auto-unlock when the update ticks down to public.
The next few updates are going to be character updates. Grizz did a poll on patreon last month and since its done and dusted thought i'd post the results here so people would know what order the builds would be. (Grizz if you dont want this here feel free to deleate it, didn't mean any harm.)
So.... I just finished playing through the different paths (specifically within Tyson's route) and, while I'm curious to see what happens with the rest of routes A and B, I have to say... The endings to C and D made me sick to my stomach. The same for Route "E"... I just really hope A and B don't take a turn for the worse (I mean in comparison to how C and D ended).
Can I ask a kind of awkward question about the Tyson character route? It's if that route has or is planning to have at some point a sex scene? I just want to know what I'm getting into
It does not have a sex scene, no. As far as planning for one, I treat sex scenes with the view of if they're needed to progress a character pairing's relationship/dynamic. So at this point, probably not for Tyson.
I cant figure out what Bensons first password is, I looked over the dialogue and the suggestions in the comments a dozen times and still cant figure it out.
If you're having issues there's somthing in hoss and orlando's route that can help. Benson is the only one im iffy on the details of since the first time i did it i just tried what i found of hoss and orlando's route and quickly worked it out from there without going through all of benson.
I realized that there are four ways in the game, but what does the path mean b ?I have replayed the game many times but I had Path A C & D but I didn't have Path B? how to get to it?
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Here's another question: What's everyone's favorite ship?? 🤔🤔
Tyson. He's well writen and fleshed out its really easy to get attached to him.
Last patreon poll (poll was in june) for which route to focus on can probably show how some people feel. Total votes 304.
1. Tyson - 100 votes
2. Dean - 62 votes
3. Orlando - 44 votes
4. Sal - 39 votes
5. Hoss - 37 votes
6. Roswell - 22 votes
Dang, Grizz you hit a gold mine with Tyson. Good job!!! 😎😎😃😃
This feels criminal to look at
Tyson/Dave is the one I'm really invested in and is my favorite dynamic all around. The bond between them is just so rewarding to watch deepen, be it romantically or platonically. I just want them in each other's life. (After some much needed character development on both sides of course.)
His is my favorite route, favorite character,
bestonlypairing with Dave, makes me feel the widest range of emotions to boot. Just an all around flawed and tragic but likeable character.The only one besides Benson I safely classify under "protect at all costs".
A bit less serious, but I guess Jack/his knife. I really hope to get a chance, as a player, to introduce the two of them further at some point. Memphis/knife is another good one. All villains need to meet knife. Slowly. Very slowly.
(SPOILERS )
Tyson easily takes first place, his development was satisfying, his charcter and the way he thinks and process things is interesting and amusing to see, and honestly I can't see Dave getting close to anyone as much as he did with Tyson, there is something special there
Orlando goes second, a total sweetheart, soft and precious ✨ a very affectionate and kind soul towards Dave, the drama of their "background" and how protective he is over Dave is endearing at the least, I imagine he is very fun to talk to as well , not to mention his other qualities(cooking/gaming/plush sleep partner/etc) he is a choice boyfriend/husband material 👀
Dean goes third, not only does his dorky flirting work like a charm, his plants and farming passion is charming , ... a home with plants, greenery , and a silver-tongued bear hubby? Sign me up.
I like how he cares for Dave's wellbeing and educates and guides him on "things" , how he looks out for his friends (Sal), his persistence and patience with Dave wins him many points too
I like to imagine there's a timeline where Oswin and Liam the bus driver hookup.
I HATE to ask but because I'm stupid, I'm having trouble with the day 17 password.
Where is it?
I had trouble with it too. Read the conversations you have with Tyson and Orlando that should help.
Okay and do they both say the specific word or is it hinting to a word to describe them?
It's both actually.
Okay so I tried both words of Monster and Feral and Thanatos said that I was close, this is so cunfusinggggg.
You're getting close...
Hi Grizz I was wondering: will we see Dave's mom at one point? I am curious what see looks like. She sounds cool.😎😎
I've only drawn her in fan art so... maybe in a CG at best?
I'll take it. 😃😃😎😎
Can someone help me, is there a code for the vault on day 11 of Tyson's route.
There is, it's given directly to you on Day 11.
Wait I thought that was Day 10? Welp time to replay. 😂😂😂
Yeah I'm stupid and was like oh, I find out all these hardish codes and this one was right here in front of me
What/who will the next update be over? Just curious😮💨
Next public update will be Dean and Orlando.
Oh alright...thanks!
https://www.personality-database.com/subcategory/12572/password-gaming-mbti-pers..
What is this? I don't get it. 🤔🤔
The Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) is a trademarked psychological assessment tool that was devised by Katharine Cook Briggs and Isabel Briggs Myers. Having studied Jung’s theory of psychological types, they believed that his ideas were worthy of a wider audience and sought to refine them for practical purposes.
https://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/
check this out if you wanna learn more
Here's an easier read just use the 'personality type' button - https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality
Theres a reason its not used as a profesional test. Its widely unreliable with huge overlap between the types giving diffrent results for the same person each time. It also can't be validated as it doesn't really measure anything.
Its considered nothing but pseudoscience.
16pesonalities.com is not actually a Myers-Briggs test, is a big 5 test masquareded as a MBTI, and from what i heard alot of people who take MBTI seriously aren't the biggest fans of 16personalities.com
here for more on the big 5 https://www.truity.com/book/big-five-personality-model
here on why self-report questionnaires are imperfect https://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/basics#tests
Is there a list of all the questions I can try asking Oswin on day 8 when we first meet him? I already got a hand full of answers from him but I got mountains more of unanswered questions too. I wonder if there is anything more I could ask or if I should just give up or something...
One more thing... I just read how to get path B from the patreon page (apparently it is to let Hoss call out Benson's lie and admit there is another person in the mansion). Well I aint no snitch and I really dont feel like finding that part, loading it up, and going through that path manually to see if it is any different. Anyone did that though? Is there any big difference? I assume since C and D and E are death routes then B is also one? ((but no one died in it yet judging from the comments I read)). So what's the difference? Nothing yet but planned?
B is where Oswin is dead. Hasn't hit a terminal end like the other three, but there are somewhat significant changes without him around. You learn a bit more about Benson in his absence too.
grizz already answered this question some time ago in the comments, basically he said that this questions that you can ask to oswin are just more in the sense of world-building so you arent missing something in case you dont get all the questions you can ask him...
Here's a question: What classes would everyone be if this was a RPG? 🤔🤔
I bet Dean would be a bard, so he could seduce everyone 🤣
Oh my gosh I can totally see that. 😂😂😂
Sal's definitly an axe-carrying barbarian -iykwim
hahaha ;-;
I also think that Dave should be a healer... makes the most sense imo but maybe its 'cause I sometimes play as a healer lol
Grizz are you a RPG player? What would you choose for our lovely cast of characters?
I am! Question is, are we talking as they are now, or after the story is done?
*Orlando's shocked face*
That is a good question. Hmmm... As they are now.
As they are now? Sure. I'd say something like...
Dave - Paladin. Wants to do the 'right' thing and is considerably "Lawful Stupid"
Tyson - Rogue. Maybe Barbarian if only because there's not much going on upstairs but a whole lot of anger to work through, but stealing is the tipping point.
Roswell - Black Mage/Warlock. Any occult-oriented mage will do. Reasons should be obvious. Any high INT based class works well here.
Orlando - Healer. One of his costumes in beta (and reworked into the new sprites) hints towards this. He's pretty group mom anyway.
Dean - Druid. Nature boy through and through, but pretty resourceful beyond that.
Hoss - Bard. Reasons here should be obvious.
Sal - Fighter? He's hard to place given his physical abilities and personality sort of clash. But he's another protector-type role.
And of course, all this is how they stand now. How they shift post-story is more interesting but we're not at that point just yet for it to make sense :P
Then I will wait until the end. Maybe our choices will change? 🤔🤔
Dave i would say a cleric for his personality but with his role in the story an inquisitor would probably fit better.
Tysons a theif for obvious reasons.
Sal i would say a monk, quiet calm personality and willing to give people benefit of the doubt and lookout for people.
Hoss is a bard being an actor and all charisma based.
Deans a knight, lower background rising up to be somthing better (like joining the police force) but has a naive dutiful streak like when it comes to dave and dates it must be perfect and done properly. Can't get the princess till you kill the dragon.
Rosswel would probably be a mage.
Not sure about Orlando mabey a summoner or blue mage even a cleric with his fear of ghosts and more unholy things.
Roswell really gives off a mage vibe, does he not? 😂😂
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And I want my brother back"Okay someone please help me out here.
I'm usually really good at mysteries and puzzles but I'm always getting stumped with day 10. I cant save anyone because I don't even know the password for it. I tried everything. I even went through the whole novel twice. I don't know what I'm missing and I even tried to read between the lines. I swear I'm not overthinking this. Can someone tell me (without spoiling a lot) exactly which part of the scene/area I'm suppose to pay more attention to?
I looked through past comments and It got me even more stumped then before. I know I sound dense. Is there something I have to go back for? *Quickly saves day 8 for reference*
(Also thank you to Grizz for making it a puzzle type game with lots of mystery in a story. This is one of the most favorite games I like to come back to every so often)
Its said during day 10, best hint is what dave thinks at the vault 'what is the worst possible outcome'
Also failing this, also shortly after everything goes wrong, too.
I dont understand. Can you give me a more specific clue as to where i might find the right one? It was already hard figuring out the password to prevent benson from being dead. Does the password relate closer to Sal? or is it more toward near the vault. it doesnt need to be specific but i would like an idea to go off of instead of the same Quota "Dave's saying ' whats the worst possible outcome' " Im already racking my brain for this XD
Update: I've read the part where Dave said it but it doesnt say anything useful. Can someone message me to help me out a bit?
Re-Update: OMG I DID NOT EXPECT THAT TO BE AN ACTUAL PASSWORD FOR DAY 10. Im beyond shocked
Oh Tyson, such a little shit. I really like him, and I'm excited to see where this goes! Dean is also really nice and supportive. Great work with this so far, has fun 999/VLR vibes.
This VN is amazing, and Tyson route is my favourite
Tyson: Dean told me to tell you to make yourself ready tomorrow for a thing and walked away looking pleased with himself
Oh no
Out of curiosity what exactly Do you think that line implied?
Orlando kind of spoils what it's going to be in the new update.
Which if it's the same for every route, there might be an awkward conversation ahead depending on what color the save file is.
Read that Tyson's day 19 was put on hold for a little bit. That's okay. While I do like a few other routes, especially Deans, I just feel like Tyson's route is where I want to be invested in. He is like a puzzle that just fits naturally into Dave's life (and future). Or maybe he is just my type IDK :P
Keep up the good work. Your VN is always getting nice and/or long updates. Hope to see more of Tyson soon!
como fazer o final bom(╥﹏╥)
When you go to the vault it lets you know it was said when you was dealing with the tyson, orlando argument so look there.
Before playing: let's hope I don't cry
Update: teared up a little at the end
Thanks for the update!! I'm really liking how the story is coming together and how we get to understand Dave a little more!🐺
i think my saves broke ;-;
all of them are saves from 2019..
(had up to like 60 saves)
Edit: There was luckily one auto save from december 2020 thankfully. (tyson route)
I can't believe it's been that long since I've gotten into visual novels holy crap
how do i get the 3th and the last musics from the soundtrack?
From a comment a bit further down, the 3rd track is bugged and can't unlock right now, but will be fixed with the next public update.
The last track I unlocked on path C/D I believe.
can you be more specific i already finished paths C/D
I got it on Day 14 path C, when Dave goes into the mill
thank you
i got it
omg its a tyson update
Quick question is Tyson demisexual or pansexual, since he keeps denying being gay or bi. No matter what I still love his character
He doesn't know, but if you're on his route and have good affinity with him he does say he wants to go out with dave. So i would say at least bi but it would be more accurate to say unknown and that his facebook status would be set as 'complicated'.
Affectionately, on the server he's referred to as "Davesexual". But realistically he's Gay/Demi. Just really only in Dave's corner.
So he's gay for Dave and Dave only thats cute omg.
new builds out, tyson day 18
https://www.patreon.com/posts/public-demo-a0-2-54903589
Are there any working passwords on Day 1 and 2 ? I just cannot find any hints regarding this.
Edit : And also Day 3 ? I spent hours trying random words but to no avail.
Only ones used for testing. Trust that if you hit a point where it's asking for a password you either have been given the password already in some form or you're not meant to know it (yet).
Keep me posted how you find the game moving forward though!
Oh, so does that mean that Day 1, Day 2, and Day 3 do have working passwords, it's just that I have not been able to find them ?
Well, I guess I still have long ways to go. I have found every password from Day 4 onwards, and I had a great and enjoyable time doing so. Thank you for such an experience in your VN. Looking forward to Day 18. Keep up the awesome work ^-^
Thanks!
Day 1 and 3 have passwords but nothing in-text to give you an indication as to what they are. As they're really only there from me testing stuff and for me to keep testing stuff during development, I wouldn't worry about them so much as they'll be scrapped come full release.
Grizz you had me guessing. 😂😂😂
im having trouble with the password on day 10
Best hint is what dave thinks at the vault ''what's the worst possible outcome?''
Can someone help me find the third song in the music room and the CGs of the number 24 of memories and the number 12 of trauma, please, I was stressed looking for them.
24 is roswells route with high affinity, 12 i think is path D but with 'no forgiveness' (wont say more about the needed choice because spoilers).
Thanks friend, with that it is enough to find the CG that I am missing.
I finally found out why the third song in the music room wasn't unlocking and it's because it was pointing to the wrong file. Expect it to be fixed as of the next Patron update but so long as you've heard it it'll auto-unlock when the update ticks down to public.
Ah, now it all makes sense, it's good to know what the mistake was. Thanks
Dear creators, this game is amazing, one of the best if not the best VN I've played, alongside echo and adastra. Kudos.
Its a one man project Grizz does it all on his own. Well other than music, he shares that with Civ valian.
hmm. Sp Benson or reveal Oz alway lead me to path A and C... how can i get path B and D?
https://www.patreon.com/posts/on-topic-of-42690779
The next few updates are going to be character updates. Grizz did a poll on patreon last month and since its done and dusted thought i'd post the results here so people would know what order the builds would be. (Grizz if you dont want this here feel free to deleate it, didn't mean any harm.)
It's fine. After next update I was going to host the poll again after I take Tyson and Dean out so votes can be redistributed.
So.... I just finished playing through the different paths (specifically within Tyson's route) and, while I'm curious to see what happens with the rest of routes A and B, I have to say... The endings to C and D made me sick to my stomach. The same for Route "E"... I just really hope A and B don't take a turn for the worse (I mean in comparison to how C and D ended).
Can I ask a kind of awkward question about the Tyson character route? It's if that route has or is planning to have at some point a sex scene? I just want to know what I'm getting into
It does not have a sex scene, no. As far as planning for one, I treat sex scenes with the view of if they're needed to progress a character pairing's relationship/dynamic. So at this point, probably not for Tyson.
Oh, man...
Well, I hope at least a kiss or naked cuddlings are due for Tyson's route.
I can say yes to one if not both of those things depending how they develop.
I wish you could heart comments because this is one of my favorite aspects of the game
DAMMIT!
i'm missing 2 songs in the music room: the third and the last/twentieth, how do i get them?
I cant figure out what Bensons first password is, I looked over the dialogue and the suggestions in the comments a dozen times and still cant figure it out.
If you're having issues there's somthing in hoss and orlando's route that can help. Benson is the only one im iffy on the details of since the first time i did it i just tried what i found of hoss and orlando's route and quickly worked it out from there without going through all of benson.
Imma still play a a route just so I can see everything anyways….thanks!😁
how to find ever password when the bad end show need help please
Uhm….for which one? If you get a bad ending just replay the route and use a keywords in the bad ending in the vault
hoss rout
Its a word in the letter from oz dave gets.
ok thank you
hoss route is so hard on day six he keep dieing i am confusion
There's a password in the bad end, you need to find it and use it at the vault before the events where he will die.
waits patiently
I, too
Next public build https://www.patreon.com/posts/public-demo-a0-3-53680863
I realized that there are four ways in the game, but what does the path mean b ?I have replayed the game many times but I had Path A C & D but I didn't have Path B? how to get to it?
Don't support Benson on day 8 but use the password on day 10.
Thank you
It's a misplaced flag because you resonated. It's been fixed in the latest version coming out in a week from now.
Is there a walkthrough for this game?
Not as of yet.
Also guys, since i wanted to go Tyson route to the whole end, im curious, how to achieve Dave's deaths?
Also, how achieve scene with Tyson in car?
For some reason, i didnt got it
Tyson in the car is a bad ending but i can't remember which, and dave can't die yet i believe.
well shit, i just spotted his three deaths in log, when opened it, so this is why im curious about his death's
I recommend playing around with path C and D.
firstly i want to, end Tyson route, when story will be finished, i just cant start another try, without finishing decided route
You will be waiting for a bit then, given it's only day 17.
Also, if I'm interpreting correctly, don't go through the game files. They're archived for a reason.