I cannot overstate how this VN surprised me, let me start talking about presentation:
The stock images used for the backgrounds are very well selected for the scenes, heck I would say that drawn background probably won't give the same exact they gave me. Is hard to explain but the amount of times you see it give a sensation of familiarity and the black and white filter used for make it all nostalgic even for me who just played now.
The sprites are very amateurish but it does work in favor of the game, the own unique body shapes does give an charm to it and the characters have a lot of expressions and they change a lot even mid sentences which is great to keep attention and also read how the characters are feeling.
Now the OST, man Civ Valian really are one of my favorite composers in the FVN spaces, heck I would say even in non FVN spaces, he already got me surprised in other FVNs like Lustful Desire and RainCheck and once again it's amazing in here too and knowing Grizz also composed some tracks makes me curious to see what is next to hear. The sound track in Password really works because even if loops due the long stretches of dialogue the way is looped it does not have noticeably moments where you can notice the music looping or the music ending and starting again, which is a blessing for my ears.
Now about the actual story I will only comment on the point of view of Dean route which is the one I finished, I will update this after reading the whole thing.
So, the story of Password is indeed confusing and I did spend sometimes breaking my head with the puzzles, but I do love it the intricacies the fact that nothing feels like a after thought and the expectancy of attention feels great in a VN. I won't delve much in spoiler territory because of all VNs I played so far this one is the best you experience without any info prior or knowing anything besides bare bones. But what I can say is that the story is very character focused so your enjoyment is tied to how much you like the characters and I can say even the ones I thought I didn't care much by the end I was loving them and already miss them now that I finished the game.
That is to say it can be a bit frustrating with some puzzles but they are more an attention test of you, if you really read it you will figure it out pretty easily.
My final thoughts: I really love Password it's one my favorite FVNs of all time, it made me cry so much and laugh so hard, I love every character and every moment written in this game I will do it again and again with the other routes and endings.
Now there is one thing I do want to mention which is one my favorite things about the VN which does fit in spoiler category so I suggest not reading from here on if you plan to read it. This is just my biased comments.
So first of all I really loved how the sex scenes were handled and it become one of my favorite depictions of it, sure some might complain of the lack of actual erotic material but for me at least Password managed to extract the emotions of love, vulnerability and proximity of 2 people without the vulgar and horny depictions. I really like it how it was handled it leaving enough to imagination but not too much to distract from what is important. I also loved the romance parts, it really felt natural, it made sense and make me smile a lot seeing Dave and Dean going about, I can't wait to see the other routes,
And the second thing I want to talk about is Dave's dad, David one of the major reasons for tears in this game for me. The reason I want to point this out that is hard to make the reader care for a character who is not present in the story but David influence and the love Dave and Tyson have for him is so real that I couldn't start to be sad when it was brought up the sad parts or smile of the good parts.
But yeah this is my review of Password for now I will edit this later when I finish all routes to point out any changes in opinion.
Oh that's very neat. I just hope the fans can give a chance to those new sprites. I get the old sprites are in cherished but I hope people give it a chance.
Hello, its me again (ty for the last time btw), but How do i get to Path B? I tried to get the last password wrong for the First time and got F, soo im linda Lost here
Hi, I started playing around 1 month Ago. Did ty Path C and A, did Dean A and now for some reason after o got the password right on orlando, It keeps looping and nothing changes, is that normal!? Is the game bugged?
Hi, I recently started playing, I wanted to ask something. I went through Sal's route, and I wanted to know if there is a way for him to survive, or does he necessarily have to die? And I also wanted to ask if it is normal for me to have gotten an ending on day 7, or did I do something wrong? But in general I just want to know if there is a way for Sal to survive?
Hey, I did what you said and it worked, but Benson died, is there any way to save him too? I think I missed something because I didn't see any password.
You just have to pay more attention to the conversation. The first password is said by Orlando (after Orlando got shot) and 2nd password is said after you put in the first and it was mentioned by Roswell(?)
I would appreciate it I won't ask for any rn I stopped playing long ago but I wanted to restart I know a few paswword cuz I played from back in the day when youd get the passwords at the end of the route, I still remember a letter coming to Dave w the password written on it, I prefered that way, when it was changed I was doing Sals route and was breaking my head against a wall trying to find the password it was not fun, never ended up finding it even after reading it again and I had no fun in that I just wanted to continiue reading instead of searching old txt for a specific word
Hi! I have a problem with the compedium. I alredy have played tyson's epilogue and it doesn't let me play dean's. And yes dean appears in the entry. I don't know what to do. Any advice?
ok! I checked out the PC version and it works perfectly. After a replayed the game to fill somethings that was missing I was able to play finally Dean´s epilogue and the others. Although the android version never works. But thanks anyway =)
i want to give my thoughts on password (mostly the things i absolutely love about it with some criticism sprinkled in) but i feel like its not yet the time to do so
it was a wild ride watching and learning more about the development of this game and i wish you a good hiatus grizz!
ill keep my support for you and your future projects
ok, so I'm a little confused. I was playing the game with Dean as my partner, and I was on A path for the longest time. but Day 17 came and I was struggling with the password.
~SPOILERS
I eventually gave up hoping that I'd get info on what that password was like the previous times but after Ty and Orlando died it told me that I was now on path F. I was hella confused because I had read the last dev log and it said that A and B paths were complete. so now I'm worried that I won't be able to finish it because I went down an incomplete path. also, does this mean there is a C, D, and E path? if so are they also complete?
side note: I continued and saved it on day 21 after not saving after the password, but now there are 2 X's on the square. what are they and is it important that it's the 2nd and 3rd ones?
To get on other paths you miss passwords usually and the X's mean a character is now dead. Also all paths are complete in this build. A is the true end of the game, the other paths are bad ends and such.
I went Tyson's path and was loving everything about it until he finally admits to dave his feelings and they hook up or whatever. Around this time in the game their whole relationship is just never mentioned again and they barely ever even have conversations going forward. It was a lot of game left after this happened too. The entire story is very deep and captivating/interesting but I was really disappointed how the whole history of dave and tyson developing their relationship and finally having eachother just gets dropped and left behind going forward and the rest is Dave talking extensively with pretty much everyone except Tyson. They're whole backstory and relationship was such an amazing build up until they have sex a couple times then they hardly seem to interact at all.
Yeah, buddy... That's where the password comes in. If you need a hint I'm sure anyone of us would be willing to provide it, but we need to know what you've done/tried already.
What's up with Flora? At the end of the Sal route, he calls her Mrs. Sinclair which would mean she is Roswell's mother, but I'm confused because Oswin is his father and he and Flora are siblings right? I'm probably just being dense, but I'm confused. Can someone explain? Or maybe even say if I'm understanding or not understanding?
I'm confused, what do you mean? Sal isn't Flora's kid. Ozwin is Flora's brother, or she's the adopted sister (it's been a while since i played through so i might be misremembering the adoption thing, but she is Oswins sister). Flora married a rabbit (i think he's a rabbit) thats why she's Flora Sinclair and not Flora Hammond. If you're talking about benson, he's still the family servant even if he did pretty much all the parenting as if he was the hammond childrens father.
You misunderstand me... I fixed my original statement so it wasn't misleading... I apologize for the confusion.
At the end of Sal's route he calls her Mrs. Sinclair. Roswell's last name is Sinclair, yeah? But we know from the main story that Oswin is Roswell's biological father and not his uncle like we were led to believe... So, I'm confused as to how Flora works into it, and if I misunderstood their relationship.
Oh my god. Im only six days in. Played for less than a day. And I had that small moment of realization of what the password was when I saw the vault after Resonating. After typing in that password and seeing how its changed the story during dinner, I think it's safe to say this has quickly grown to become one of my favorite visual novels. Amazing work guys, honestly, how many visual novels out there that hook people in so quickly. 10/10.
This took DAYS. But I finally finished it. Holy cow what a ride. This made me actually pull open a word doc for notes so I could regularly get passwords and route outlines.
I have a question but it's a spoiler so I'll hide it below
Spoilers!
Dave's talk with Orlando, after everything is said and done. That is a lose end I hadn't thought about until he mentioned it. Orlando's dad isn't dead, so that's still happening. Is there a sequel that's being planned? Is there more content related that will be released when the full game is finished? Orlando was seriously my second favorite route after Ty, I want to help him too XD
There will be a sequal but its set some time after password and wont have Dave in it, or at least last it was mentioned he wouldn't even have a camio. I'm not sure what you mean by Dave's dad not being dead, because he is, the only times he isn't is in the alternate timelines.
Well i'm not sure all the details and wont say all i know since it's spoilery but the sequal is called syndicate and will be investigating something involving the police, and at least two of passwords cast i know will be involved for sure.
HELP , I remove the game and install again and again but i cant get reset the game, it always contains my save routes and then I cant go to Dave Bad Ending again, it stinks, I dont understand this bug :(
The cg's aren't done yet, currently Grizz is working on the dean rewrite. But if you're thinking of playing the itch.io version it isn't currently being updated while Grizz works on getting everything finished up. The itch.io version is the complete BETA version. All updates are currently just on patreon that you can get access to for £1 a month.
this is from october so i think its okay to post but yeah the sprites are going great
The coffee is a way of getting affection with the boys.
Use 'Dave' to get +1 affection with everyone. You can use any of the friends names to get unique dialogue and +1 affection with that person (names must be capitalised).
Theres some others just for dialogue like 'Timber' and 'Chase', i dont know them all
so I'm been watching Keith Ballard's LP of Password and a recurring critique is that none of the characters have a unique voice, they all speak of everything in the same manner, so I would like to help fix that, with my completely unqualified advice based on amateur knowledge of linguistic psychology, I will say which way I think the characters would speak based of their personalities, and hopefully would help make their voices distinct if implemented, maybe, I'm not a writer so who knows
Orlando, Hoss, and Oswin: Syllogistic Form (Given X, then Y; If-then statements, conditional logic); Declarative Form (Sentences are declared as clear-cut statements, with closure);
Orlando and Hoss: Persuasive Cadence (Pacing, word choice, and delivery meant to maximize affect); Familiar Tone (Friendly, colloquial tone to invoke relatability and camaraderie); but how to make Orlando and Hoss' voices distinct from each other?
Oswin: Blunt Delivery (Matter-of-fact language, straightforward and unadorned); Avalanching Facts (Communication via an impersonal series of causal events news anchor style);
Dave and Dean: Self-referencing ("I" language, subjective opinion/belief-centered grammar); Terseness (Brief, minimalist language, stating things statically without much elaboration);
Dave: Ontological Clarifying (Heavy time spent defining initial "terms" and avoiding equivocations); Semantic Disclaimers (Preemptive addressing of common misunderstandings, to ensure comprehension);
Dean: Self-revealing language (Candid details of personal life, oversharing); Direct affirmation of self-properties (Declaring what one is directly, without speculation);
Tyson: Short Phrases (With quick follow-ups); Casual language (Informal tone and style); Vivid Realism (Description of objects/experiences in visceral detail, highlighting the overall feeling evoked); Trendy Language (On-trend slang words and references);
Roswell, Sal, and Benson: Dense Information (Reference-rich, information-heavy sentences); Long Elaborations (Prolonged backstories, long paragraphs, and buildup);
Benson: Backstory & Context (Thorough setup and backstory provided for a given point or topic); Step-by-Step Elaboration (Explanations that follow a brick-by-brick narrative sequence);
Roswell and Sal: Convergent Events (Rather than one linear chronology, the past is explained as events crossing paths); Cross-Domain Synthesis (Tying different domains/layers into the present topic, as real or as metaphors); but how to make Roswell and Sal's voices distinct from each other?
this is all probably bullshit, I would appreciate it if someone who actually knows how to write dialogue would give their 2 cents
i dont really get the point but i'm also tired so wtf. Is the problem you want voice acting or is it just because it's plain text without some mannerisms like slovenly speech?
If its the mannerisms thing the reason is most likely to keep things plain and simple to read. Grizz is australian and some people had problems with the text early on so he changed it all to american. Putting regional colloquialisms into the story would just make it harder for people to follow or understand and in a murder mystery that you need to solve that can be alienating.
By "voice" he's talking about a term in the writing and literary world to refer to how a character's personality and psychology is shown through their choice of words; how they express, what they express, etc.
*Not* accent, dialect, or colloquialisms.
Typically, if every character talks the same, that might not be considered the best dialogue. Though that being a problem in Password is OP's opinion, not mine.
I don't know how far away the next public build is, but the next one will likely be the first one until it goes full release; just need to clean up Dean's route first.
I'm really enjoying password. Very good writing and story building. Thank you it's been a real pleasure even if it is intense and scary. Especially when it guessed my real name. 😁
Is it possible to recover my save data? My old device wont work and my save is on there. Is there a way to get back to the point I was at or change a file to match my old file? I tried usong a save editor but its too complex and the game crashed when i loaded the edited save.
Given no save editor should exist, that's probably why the game crashed. If you're able to access your old device at all, there's a chance your saves are also backed up in %APP DATA%. Failing that, you'll just have to use the skip options available in-game to speed through what you've already seen and get back to where you were.
That's what's planned for the next stage. Dean rewrite is happening on the Patreon side currently and once that's done a lot of things are being culled for expediency.
Well, I finally finished the main story and I'm kind of sad that the story is over, I really liked the characters, they are very charismatic, in relation to the story it's very good, the password mechanics work well and it's cool when you discover the passwords by yourself , in relation to the ending:
SPOILER!!!!!
Dave getting memories from other timelines was something I was already expecting but it was cool to see anyway, there were some things I wanted answered, like what the big Thatanos was, what happened to Orlando's father in the P timeline, but nothing that ruins the game in relation to Taison being the Canonical route, I'm happy and sad, I like Taison, but David and Orlando will always be canonical in my heart, excellent game.
Use 'Dave' to get +1 affection with everyone. You can use any of the friends names to get unique dialogue and +1 affection with that person (names must be capitalised).
Theres some others just for dialogue like 'Timber' and 'Chase', i dont know them all
Okay! So first of all, i would like to admit that it was this game the reason why i even created an account lol
Aside from that, and (SPOILERS ALERT) after FINALLYYY beating the whole game by playing just what... 7 times??? xd i can officially say that it was worth it.
I definitely relate to Dave in a lot of things which made the whole experience even more enjoyable, and the whole plot surely managed to surprise me (or at least the first time) and as for the routes... although i have my favorites, i won't deny that they were insteresting and in some cases very pasionate (i'm looking at you Dean!), but yeah, overall pretty good 10/10!
ALSO, TYSON IS THE CANON ROUTE??? YEAAAAHHHH LET'S GOOOOOO
I love this VN! I'm probably about 90% through getting all endings, and I have to say, this is one of very few VNs where I really really like the MC, especially as I get to know him more throughout each play through. He's so cute and sweet and innocent and I can genuinely understand why all the other boys crush on him, rather than it feeling forced. Says a lot from me too as I'm a sucker for a himbo.
I'm sorry that you found certain parts of the VN not to your liking. From your critique though, it looks like you went in assuming this was closer to a character drama rather than a mystery thriller, which is possibly where certain parts of the VN felt like they fell flat.
so I've been watch Keith Ballard's let's play of Password, and has brought up several criticisms, i have a idea of how the first 3 days could be re-written to alleviate some of the problems, keep in mind that i am no writer and this just a fan's opinion, also i'm not on patreon so if anything i talk about has already been fixed in the new builds that's why, Spoilers ahead
start day one with Roswell making a big scene of Tyson's appearance (it's kinda weird we only see Dean's individual reaction despite his lack of connection to Tyson, my guess it was to set up a romantic rivalry but it never goes anywhere, except that kinda sudden fight in Benson's bad end, anyway is weird that Roswell and Orlando don't get a reaction until Roswell suddenly begins harassing Tyson later), but begrudgingly relenting to let him go (thereby starting the vacation in a bad note and providing a reason why they don't hang out together as often as one would expect), day 1 spend first with Tyson and latter Dean establishing any vital information (things like how are their relationship with Dave and each other, who knows about Dave's dad, who was in high school together, who doesn't know each other well, basically any important character information that Dave already knows about at this point), day 2 do the same for Sal and Hoss, and day 3 for Roswell and Orlando, imply that they are mad at Dave and have been avoiding him until now, but don't have them address the issue head on yet, so Roswell later actions and the call out Dave gets later make sense, i would also establish that Dave is depressed because of his father's death from the beginning (probably day 2 or 3), because right now we only find out about it at the end of day 8, and then in day 9 he starts his depressive spiral, this harms the emotional catharsis of day 14 because the change in his behavior shouldn't be a mystery to those who knew of what happened (which at that point is everyone except Hoss and Sal if you are not in his route), but if is established that Dave is putting up a "everything is fine" facade then the reveal of how much this was affecting Dave makes much more sense, also i would move the blocking of the road to day 9, because it makes no sense in path B how they don't just leave for days after finding Oswin's body, the reason given is because they don't want one of them to be incriminated, but that excuse falls flat when you notice it wasn't a concern in any of the previous bad endings
anyway i hope the feedback helps, love the game, personal top 10, but it could be better
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So, Password.
I cannot overstate how this VN surprised me, let me start talking about presentation: The stock images used for the backgrounds are very well selected for the scenes, heck I would say that drawn background probably won't give the same exact they gave me. Is hard to explain but the amount of times you see it give a sensation of familiarity and the black and white filter used for make it all nostalgic even for me who just played now. The sprites are very amateurish but it does work in favor of the game, the own unique body shapes does give an charm to it and the characters have a lot of expressions and they change a lot even mid sentences which is great to keep attention and also read how the characters are feeling.
Now the OST, man Civ Valian really are one of my favorite composers in the FVN spaces, heck I would say even in non FVN spaces, he already got me surprised in other FVNs like Lustful Desire and RainCheck and once again it's amazing in here too and knowing Grizz also composed some tracks makes me curious to see what is next to hear. The sound track in Password really works because even if loops due the long stretches of dialogue the way is looped it does not have noticeably moments where you can notice the music looping or the music ending and starting again, which is a blessing for my ears.
Now about the actual story I will only comment on the point of view of Dean route which is the one I finished, I will update this after reading the whole thing. So, the story of Password is indeed confusing and I did spend sometimes breaking my head with the puzzles, but I do love it the intricacies the fact that nothing feels like a after thought and the expectancy of attention feels great in a VN. I won't delve much in spoiler territory because of all VNs I played so far this one is the best you experience without any info prior or knowing anything besides bare bones. But what I can say is that the story is very character focused so your enjoyment is tied to how much you like the characters and I can say even the ones I thought I didn't care much by the end I was loving them and already miss them now that I finished the game. That is to say it can be a bit frustrating with some puzzles but they are more an attention test of you, if you really read it you will figure it out pretty easily.
My final thoughts: I really love Password it's one my favorite FVNs of all time, it made me cry so much and laugh so hard, I love every character and every moment written in this game I will do it again and again with the other routes and endings. Now there is one thing I do want to mention which is one my favorite things about the VN which does fit in spoiler category so I suggest not reading from here on if you plan to read it. This is just my biased comments.
So first of all I really loved how the sex scenes were handled and it become one of my favorite depictions of it, sure some might complain of the lack of actual erotic material but for me at least Password managed to extract the emotions of love, vulnerability and proximity of 2 people without the vulgar and horny depictions. I really like it how it was handled it leaving enough to imagination but not too much to distract from what is important. I also loved the romance parts, it really felt natural, it made sense and make me smile a lot seeing Dave and Dean going about, I can't wait to see the other routes,
And the second thing I want to talk about is Dave's dad, David one of the major reasons for tears in this game for me. The reason I want to point this out that is hard to make the reader care for a character who is not present in the story but David influence and the love Dave and Tyson have for him is so real that I couldn't start to be sad when it was brought up the sad parts or smile of the good parts.
But yeah this is my review of Password for now I will edit this later when I finish all routes to point out any changes in opinion.
Sprites are being worked on in the background but the artist Ghosty is dealing with IRL stuff so it's slow going/delayed
Oh that's very neat. I just hope the fans can give a chance to those new sprites. I get the old sprites are in cherished but I hope people give it a chance.
why no update fuckasses?
Because it's done? At least the beta is, there wont be more work done on polishing it up till later. Grizz is currently working on 'the cat's meow'.
Password moving forward: https://www.patreon.com/posts/password-moving-110152262
I don't think this person as really interested in the answer if checking his other comments around Itch.
Doesn't matter, someone will end up looking at the page wondering about updates so answering even if they don't care is still useful.
Maybe I just get worried because the person typed some weird comment in my poem.
But well have a good time developing Password and others and...
Didn't bought the plushy but loved it. I kind have a huge collection of plushies on my bed and other places.
Hello, its me again (ty for the last time btw), but How do i get to Path B? I tried to get the last password wrong for the First time and got F, soo im linda Lost here
A public post on how to get to paths A,B,C,D-
https://www.patreon.com/posts/on-topic-of-42690779
Ty, i ended up finding It some time after the post
Hi, I started playing around 1 month Ago. Did ty Path C and A, did Dean A and now for some reason after o got the password right on orlando, It keeps looping and nothing changes, is that normal!? Is the game bugged?
I think you should try choosing the other dialogue option.
Already done that, every single one thats on the loop
Nvm, did It again, and It worked This time
Hi, I recently started playing, I wanted to ask something. I went through Sal's route, and I wanted to know if there is a way for him to survive, or does he necessarily have to die? And I also wanted to ask if it is normal for me to have gotten an ending on day 7, or did I do something wrong? But in general I just want to know if there is a way for Sal to survive?
After resonating, type in the password that was in all caps in Dave's letter
oh ok, i get i
Hey, I did what you said and it worked, but Benson died, is there any way to save him too? I think I missed something because I didn't see any password.
Try with another password, they usually show them in capital letters, a lil hint, it starts with "B"
I actually didn't see any password, I paid close attention but couldn't find it. But I'll try putting some passwords until it works.
I just noticed that the world isn't in capital letters,
pay close attention the the convo with Orlando at the hospitalHey! I did it! Thank you so much! You helped me a lot! I wish I had answered you before, but I completely forgot. I'm so sorry!
Glad I could help
You just have to pay more attention to the conversation. The first password is said by Orlando (after Orlando got shot) and 2nd password is said after you put in the first and it was mentioned by Roswell(?)
Does anyone have a document with all the passwords or something? for the people who aren't interested in searching for them while reading
you may see a whole uppercased word when you enter a bad end (after someone died), that is the password of the route.
but there are exceptions on boar route and bear route, you have to found a senrence has only one word, that is the password.
or you can just pay for the patreon member and you will got a list for passwords.
note: you have to input a password on the correct route and correct day.
Thank you, appreciated
i can just give u the password. on the specifist day.
But uhh it ruin the fun honestly.
I would appreciate it I won't ask for any rn I stopped playing long ago but I wanted to restart I know a few paswword cuz I played from back in the day when youd get the passwords at the end of the route, I still remember a letter coming to Dave w the password written on it, I prefered that way, when it was changed I was doing Sals route and was breaking my head against a wall trying to find the password it was not fun, never ended up finding it even after reading it again and I had no fun in that I just wanted to continiue reading instead of searching old txt for a specific word
Hi! I have a problem with the compedium. I alredy have played tyson's epilogue and it doesn't let me play dean's. And yes dean appears in the entry. I don't know what to do. Any advice?
Have you tried closing and reopening the game? Some have reported that that solves their issue.
Yep, many times and it doesn't work U_U and its the android version.
I'll ask around. This has been unchanged for long enough that it shouldn't just be a problem with the code but we'll see.
ok! I checked out the PC version and it works perfectly. After a replayed the game to fill somethings that was missing I was able to play finally Dean´s epilogue and the others. Although the android version never works. But thanks anyway =)
and the final demo is finnaly out in public!
i want to give my thoughts on password (mostly the things i absolutely love about it with some criticism sprinkled in) but i feel like its not yet the time to do so
it was a wild ride watching and learning more about the development of this game and i wish you a good hiatus grizz!
ill keep my support for you and your future projects
good luck!
ok, so I'm a little confused. I was playing the game with Dean as my partner, and I was on A path for the longest time. but Day 17 came and I was struggling with the password.
~SPOILERS
I eventually gave up hoping that I'd get info on what that password was like the previous times but after Ty and Orlando died it told me that I was now on path F. I was hella confused because I had read the last dev log and it said that A and B paths were complete. so now I'm worried that I won't be able to finish it because I went down an incomplete path. also, does this mean there is a C, D, and E path? if so are they also complete?
side note: I continued and saved it on day 21 after not saving after the password, but now there are 2 X's on the square. what are they and is it important that it's the 2nd and 3rd ones?
To get on other paths you miss passwords usually and the X's mean a character is now dead. Also all paths are complete in this build. A is the true end of the game, the other paths are bad ends and such.
A public post on paths A,B,C,D-
https://www.patreon.com/posts/on-topic-of-42690779
Also the password is said by one of the characters on the day, The vault gives you a clue where to look when you go to enter it.
¿Does anyone know the first password of day 1?
It's an easter egg that's been removed. It was 'the end' i think. Now it just force closes password.
Spoiler
I went Tyson's path and was loving everything about it until he finally admits to dave his feelings and they hook up or whatever. Around this time in the game their whole relationship is just never mentioned again and they barely ever even have conversations going forward. It was a lot of game left after this happened too. The entire story is very deep and captivating/interesting but I was really disappointed how the whole history of dave and tyson developing their relationship and finally having eachother just gets dropped and left behind going forward and the rest is Dave talking extensively with pretty much everyone except Tyson. They're whole backstory and relationship was such an amazing build up until they have sex a couple times then they hardly seem to interact at all.
Is there any way to save tyson
Yeah, buddy... That's where the password comes in. If you need a hint I'm sure anyone of us would be willing to provide it, but we need to know what you've done/tried already.
Dont worry I already got it now
But ty
Realest statement ever. Ty es my favorite
I feel like I need to clarify that when I said "ty" I was saying thank you
I'm dead. Laughing my literally ass off. That's funny. Copy that.
Okay... Spoiler-type question time...
What's up with Flora? At the end of the Sal route, he calls her Mrs. Sinclair which would mean she is Roswell's mother, but I'm confused because Oswin is his father and he and Flora are siblings right? I'm probably just being dense, but I'm confused. Can someone explain? Or maybe even say if I'm understanding or not understanding?
I'm confused, what do you mean? Sal isn't Flora's kid. Ozwin is Flora's brother, or she's the adopted sister (it's been a while since i played through so i might be misremembering the adoption thing, but she is Oswins sister). Flora married a rabbit (i think he's a rabbit) thats why she's Flora Sinclair and not Flora Hammond. If you're talking about benson, he's still the family servant even if he did pretty much all the parenting as if he was the hammond childrens father.
You misunderstand me... I fixed my original statement so it wasn't misleading... I apologize for the confusion.
At the end of Sal's route he calls her Mrs. Sinclair. Roswell's last name is Sinclair, yeah? But we know from the main story that Oswin is Roswell's biological father and not his uncle like we were led to believe... So, I'm confused as to how Flora works into it, and if I misunderstood their relationship.
Answer:
She was adopted and was a surrogate so Oswin could have a family.
Oh, coooool!! That makes much more sense! Thanks so much, Grizz!!! I always appreciate that you're active on your page!!!
FOOOUUUUULLLLLLL. I JUST STARTED THE GAME AND ALREADY WANT TO CRY(I picked Dean).
The day 22 picture is taunting me.
Oh my god. Im only six days in. Played for less than a day. And I had that small moment of realization of what the password was when I saw the vault after Resonating. After typing in that password and seeing how its changed the story during dinner, I think it's safe to say this has quickly grown to become one of my favorite visual novels. Amazing work guys, honestly, how many visual novels out there that hook people in so quickly. 10/10.
Yep, has and will always be my favorite, it holds a special place since it was one of the first vns that I ever read
how to get the password exactly i didn't figure any of it out ye
This took DAYS. But I finally finished it. Holy cow what a ride. This made me actually pull open a word doc for notes so I could regularly get passwords and route outlines.
I have a question but it's a spoiler so I'll hide it below
Spoilers!
Dave's talk with Orlando, after everything is said and done. That is a lose end I hadn't thought about until he mentioned it. Orlando's dad isn't dead, so that's still happening. Is there a sequel that's being planned? Is there more content related that will be released when the full game is finished? Orlando was seriously my second favorite route after Ty, I want to help him too XD
There will be a sequal but its set some time after password and wont have Dave in it, or at least last it was mentioned he wouldn't even have a camio. I'm not sure what you mean by Dave's dad not being dead, because he is, the only times he isn't is in the alternate timelines.
Apologies, I meant Orlando's dad
Well i'm not sure all the details and wont say all i know since it's spoilery but the sequal is called syndicate and will be investigating something involving the police, and at least two of passwords cast i know will be involved for sure.
HELP , I remove the game and install again and again but i cant get reset the game, it always contains my save routes and then I cant go to Dave Bad Ending again, it stinks, I dont understand this bug :(
It's because your save files are stored elsewhere. Should be defaulting to My Documents I think?
no clue
%APPDATA\RenPy\PASSWORD is where you should find your save data
thanks yu very much ^^
Saw there was talks of a possible Sprite rework is that still happening?
Also many unfinished cgs?
Should I wait to play once things are completed or?
The cg's aren't done yet, currently Grizz is working on the dean rewrite. But if you're thinking of playing the itch.io version it isn't currently being updated while Grizz works on getting everything finished up. The itch.io version is the complete BETA version. All updates are currently just on patreon that you can get access to for £1 a month.
this is from october so i think its okay to post but yeah the sprites are going great
Patreon updates have all the new sprites? If so I'm in.
They haven't been put in yet Ghostlink is still working on them
Honestly I love at the beginning how it gives you the illusion of free will and name choice only to shoot it down with coffee
The coffee is a way of getting affection with the boys.
Use 'Dave' to get +1 affection with everyone. You can use any of the friends names to get unique dialogue and +1 affection with that person (names must be capitalised).
Theres some others just for dialogue like 'Timber' and 'Chase', i dont know them all
so I'm been watching Keith Ballard's LP of Password and a recurring critique is that none of the characters have a unique voice, they all speak of everything in the same manner, so I would like to help fix that, with my completely unqualified advice based on amateur knowledge of linguistic psychology, I will say which way I think the characters would speak based of their personalities, and hopefully would help make their voices distinct if implemented, maybe, I'm not a writer so who knows
Orlando, Hoss, and Oswin: Syllogistic Form (Given X, then Y; If-then statements, conditional logic); Declarative Form (Sentences are declared as clear-cut statements, with closure);
Orlando and Hoss: Persuasive Cadence (Pacing, word choice, and delivery meant to maximize affect); Familiar Tone (Friendly, colloquial tone to invoke relatability and camaraderie); but how to make Orlando and Hoss' voices distinct from each other?
Oswin: Blunt Delivery (Matter-of-fact language, straightforward and unadorned); Avalanching Facts (Communication via an impersonal series of causal events news anchor style);
Dave and Dean: Self-referencing ("I" language, subjective opinion/belief-centered grammar); Terseness (Brief, minimalist language, stating things statically without much elaboration);
Dave: Ontological Clarifying (Heavy time spent defining initial "terms" and avoiding equivocations); Semantic Disclaimers (Preemptive addressing of common misunderstandings, to ensure comprehension);
Dean: Self-revealing language (Candid details of personal life, oversharing); Direct affirmation of self-properties (Declaring what one is directly, without speculation);
Tyson: Short Phrases (With quick follow-ups); Casual language (Informal tone and style); Vivid Realism (Description of objects/experiences in visceral detail, highlighting the overall feeling evoked); Trendy Language (On-trend slang words and references);
Roswell, Sal, and Benson: Dense Information (Reference-rich, information-heavy sentences); Long Elaborations (Prolonged backstories, long paragraphs, and buildup);
Benson: Backstory & Context (Thorough setup and backstory provided for a given point or topic); Step-by-Step Elaboration (Explanations that follow a brick-by-brick narrative sequence);
Roswell and Sal: Convergent Events (Rather than one linear chronology, the past is explained as events crossing paths); Cross-Domain Synthesis (Tying different domains/layers into the present topic, as real or as metaphors); but how to make Roswell and Sal's voices distinct from each other?
this is all probably bullshit, I would appreciate it if someone who actually knows how to write dialogue would give their 2 cents
i dont really get the point but i'm also tired so wtf. Is the problem you want voice acting or is it just because it's plain text without some mannerisms like slovenly speech?
If its the mannerisms thing the reason is most likely to keep things plain and simple to read. Grizz is australian and some people had problems with the text early on so he changed it all to american. Putting regional colloquialisms into the story would just make it harder for people to follow or understand and in a murder mystery that you need to solve that can be alienating.
By "voice" he's talking about a term in the writing and literary world to refer to how a character's personality and psychology is shown through their choice of words; how they express, what they express, etc.
*Not* accent, dialect, or colloquialisms.
Typically, if every character talks the same, that might not be considered the best dialogue. Though that being a problem in Password is OP's opinion, not mine.
I want to make a video on this game so badly. Just got to wait for the next update so it can feel fresh lol
I don't know how far away the next public build is, but the next one will likely be the first one until it goes full release; just need to clean up Dean's route first.
Awesome, can't wait! ^^
I still would love to make videos on this amazing VN, if that is ok?
Oh sure, go for it.
Awesome!! Thank you ^^
I'm really enjoying password. Very good writing and story building. Thank you it's been a real pleasure even if it is intense and scary. Especially when it guessed my real name. 😁
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Is it possible to recover my save data? My old device wont work and my save is on there. Is there a way to get back to the point I was at or change a file to match my old file? I tried usong a save editor but its too complex and the game crashed when i loaded the edited save.
Given no save editor should exist, that's probably why the game crashed. If you're able to access your old device at all, there's a chance your saves are also backed up in %APP DATA%. Failing that, you'll just have to use the skip options available in-game to speed through what you've already seen and get back to where you were.
I am STRUGGLING. Am I just dumb? How do I start path b??
Reveal Oswin when given the opportunity shortly after saving Benson.
I wonder when the next update is coming out. Or the full releas
Full release is still a while off, Updates happen monthly on Patreon.
I shall remember to subscribe to said patreon then :3
Hm in my honest opinion this game needs an editor and a rewrite. Lots of days where the game drags on with nothing going on.
That's what's planned for the next stage. Dean rewrite is happening on the Patreon side currently and once that's done a lot of things are being culled for expediency.
Well, I finally finished the main story and I'm kind of sad that the story is over, I really liked the characters, they are very charismatic, in relation to the story it's very good, the password mechanics work well and it's cool when you discover the passwords by yourself , in relation to the ending:
SPOILER!!!!!
Dave getting memories from other timelines was something I was already expecting but it was cool to see anyway, there were some things I wanted answered, like what the big Thatanos was, what happened to Orlando's father in the P timeline, but nothing that ruins the game in relation to Taison being the Canonical route, I'm happy and sad, I like Taison, but David and Orlando will always be canonical in my heart, excellent game.
i have a question. what ages are each of the characters?
Roswell 18, Dave and Orlando 19, Hoss 20, Tyson 21, Dean and Sal I think are 23 and 24.
Hay just started the VN and was hoping I could see what unique dialogue you can get with the coffee name in the beginning
Use 'Dave' to get +1 affection with everyone. You can use any of the friends names to get unique dialogue and +1 affection with that person (names must be capitalised).
Theres some others just for dialogue like 'Timber' and 'Chase', i dont know them all
what does affection do does it make it easier to date that person or does it build trust
its affection, having it high does things like being able to hug Sal at the pool or kiss Hoss in the library
Thanks for letting us know 😁
I assume I'm no where close to finishing this game yet, but I swear the correct password sound effect is going to haunt me.
Okay! So first of all, i would like to admit that it was this game the reason why i even created an account lol
Aside from that, and (SPOILERS ALERT) after FINALLYYY beating the whole game by playing just what... 7 times??? xd i can officially say that it was worth it.
I definitely relate to Dave in a lot of things which made the whole experience even more enjoyable, and the whole plot surely managed to surprise me (or at least the first time) and as for the routes... although i have my favorites, i won't deny that they were insteresting and in some cases very pasionate (i'm looking at you Dean!), but yeah, overall pretty good 10/10!
ALSO, TYSON IS THE CANON ROUTE??? YEAAAAHHHH LET'S GOOOOOO
I love this VN! I'm probably about 90% through getting all endings, and I have to say, this is one of very few VNs where I really really like the MC, especially as I get to know him more throughout each play through. He's so cute and sweet and innocent and I can genuinely understand why all the other boys crush on him, rather than it feeling forced. Says a lot from me too as I'm a sucker for a himbo.
Well done!
I'm sorry that you found certain parts of the VN not to your liking. From your critique though, it looks like you went in assuming this was closer to a character drama rather than a mystery thriller, which is possibly where certain parts of the VN felt like they fell flat.
What is the song name when reading letter at day 24? On Rosswell route if it makes difference. Loved the game
"What You Could Have Been"
Is it uploaded on youtube or any other platform? I can't find it
The music can only be heard in the music room at the moment, think the plan is to sell the OST when its all done.
so I've been watch Keith Ballard's let's play of Password, and has brought up several criticisms, i have a idea of how the first 3 days could be re-written to alleviate some of the problems, keep in mind that i am no writer and this just a fan's opinion, also i'm not on patreon so if anything i talk about has already been fixed in the new builds that's why, Spoilers ahead
start day one with Roswell making a big scene of Tyson's appearance (it's kinda weird we only see Dean's individual reaction despite his lack of connection to Tyson, my guess it was to set up a romantic rivalry but it never goes anywhere, except that kinda sudden fight in Benson's bad end, anyway is weird that Roswell and Orlando don't get a reaction until Roswell suddenly begins harassing Tyson later), but begrudgingly relenting to let him go (thereby starting the vacation in a bad note and providing a reason why they don't hang out together as often as one would expect), day 1 spend first with Tyson and latter Dean establishing any vital information (things like how are their relationship with Dave and each other, who knows about Dave's dad, who was in high school together, who doesn't know each other well, basically any important character information that Dave already knows about at this point), day 2 do the same for Sal and Hoss, and day 3 for Roswell and Orlando, imply that they are mad at Dave and have been avoiding him until now, but don't have them address the issue head on yet, so Roswell later actions and the call out Dave gets later make sense, i would also establish that Dave is depressed because of his father's death from the beginning (probably day 2 or 3), because right now we only find out about it at the end of day 8, and then in day 9 he starts his depressive spiral, this harms the emotional catharsis of day 14 because the change in his behavior shouldn't be a mystery to those who knew of what happened (which at that point is everyone except Hoss and Sal if you are not in his route), but if is established that Dave is putting up a "everything is fine" facade then the reveal of how much this was affecting Dave makes much more sense, also i would move the blocking of the road to day 9, because it makes no sense in path B how they don't just leave for days after finding Oswin's body, the reason given is because they don't want one of them to be incriminated, but that excuse falls flat when you notice it wasn't a concern in any of the previous bad endings
anyway i hope the feedback helps, love the game, personal top 10, but it could be better
How do I NOT get a bad ending?
You will get many bad endings, then you need to find the password, usually a word that sums up all that happened.
At the end of the story you get to imput the password and progress the game to a new path with high grade.
Play all characters to get all zodiac medals.
Thank you, I would not figure that out by myself.