Hi, I started playing around 1 month Ago. Did ty Path C and A, did Dean A and now for some reason after o got the password right on orlando, It keeps looping and nothing changes, is that normal!? Is the game bugged?
Hi, I recently started playing, I wanted to ask something. I went through Sal's route, and I wanted to know if there is a way for him to survive, or does he necessarily have to die? And I also wanted to ask if it is normal for me to have gotten an ending on day 7, or did I do something wrong? But in general I just want to know if there is a way for Sal to survive?
Hey, I did what you said and it worked, but Benson died, is there any way to save him too? I think I missed something because I didn't see any password.
You just have to pay more attention to the conversation. The first password is said by Orlando (after Orlando got shot) and 2nd password is said after you put in the first and it was mentioned by Roswell(?)
I would appreciate it I won't ask for any rn I stopped playing long ago but I wanted to restart I know a few paswword cuz I played from back in the day when youd get the passwords at the end of the route, I still remember a letter coming to Dave w the password written on it, I prefered that way, when it was changed I was doing Sals route and was breaking my head against a wall trying to find the password it was not fun, never ended up finding it even after reading it again and I had no fun in that I just wanted to continiue reading instead of searching old txt for a specific word
Hi! I have a problem with the compedium. I alredy have played tyson's epilogue and it doesn't let me play dean's. And yes dean appears in the entry. I don't know what to do. Any advice?
ok! I checked out the PC version and it works perfectly. After a replayed the game to fill somethings that was missing I was able to play finally Dean´s epilogue and the others. Although the android version never works. But thanks anyway =)
i want to give my thoughts on password (mostly the things i absolutely love about it with some criticism sprinkled in) but i feel like its not yet the time to do so
it was a wild ride watching and learning more about the development of this game and i wish you a good hiatus grizz!
ill keep my support for you and your future projects
ok, so I'm a little confused. I was playing the game with Dean as my partner, and I was on A path for the longest time. but Day 17 came and I was struggling with the password.
~SPOILERS
I eventually gave up hoping that I'd get info on what that password was like the previous times but after Ty and Orlando died it told me that I was now on path F. I was hella confused because I had read the last dev log and it said that A and B paths were complete. so now I'm worried that I won't be able to finish it because I went down an incomplete path. also, does this mean there is a C, D, and E path? if so are they also complete?
side note: I continued and saved it on day 21 after not saving after the password, but now there are 2 X's on the square. what are they and is it important that it's the 2nd and 3rd ones?
To get on other paths you miss passwords usually and the X's mean a character is now dead. Also all paths are complete in this build. A is the true end of the game, the other paths are bad ends and such.
I went Tyson's path and was loving everything about it until he finally admits to dave his feelings and they hook up or whatever. Around this time in the game their whole relationship is just never mentioned again and they barely ever even have conversations going forward. It was a lot of game left after this happened too. The entire story is very deep and captivating/interesting but I was really disappointed how the whole history of dave and tyson developing their relationship and finally having eachother just gets dropped and left behind going forward and the rest is Dave talking extensively with pretty much everyone except Tyson. They're whole backstory and relationship was such an amazing build up until they have sex a couple times then they hardly seem to interact at all.
Yeah, buddy... That's where the password comes in. If you need a hint I'm sure anyone of us would be willing to provide it, but we need to know what you've done/tried already.
What's up with Flora? At the end of the Sal route, he calls her Mrs. Sinclair which would mean she is Roswell's mother, but I'm confused because Oswin is his father and he and Flora are siblings right? I'm probably just being dense, but I'm confused. Can someone explain? Or maybe even say if I'm understanding or not understanding?
I'm confused, what do you mean? Sal isn't Flora's kid. Ozwin is Flora's brother, or she's the adopted sister (it's been a while since i played through so i might be misremembering the adoption thing, but she is Oswins sister). Flora married a rabbit (i think he's a rabbit) thats why she's Flora Sinclair and not Flora Hammond. If you're talking about benson, he's still the family servant even if he did pretty much all the parenting as if he was the hammond childrens father.
You misunderstand me... I fixed my original statement so it wasn't misleading... I apologize for the confusion.
At the end of Sal's route he calls her Mrs. Sinclair. Roswell's last name is Sinclair, yeah? But we know from the main story that Oswin is Roswell's biological father and not his uncle like we were led to believe... So, I'm confused as to how Flora works into it, and if I misunderstood their relationship.
Oh my god. Im only six days in. Played for less than a day. And I had that small moment of realization of what the password was when I saw the vault after Resonating. After typing in that password and seeing how its changed the story during dinner, I think it's safe to say this has quickly grown to become one of my favorite visual novels. Amazing work guys, honestly, how many visual novels out there that hook people in so quickly. 10/10.
This took DAYS. But I finally finished it. Holy cow what a ride. This made me actually pull open a word doc for notes so I could regularly get passwords and route outlines.
I have a question but it's a spoiler so I'll hide it below
Spoilers!
Dave's talk with Orlando, after everything is said and done. That is a lose end I hadn't thought about until he mentioned it. Orlando's dad isn't dead, so that's still happening. Is there a sequel that's being planned? Is there more content related that will be released when the full game is finished? Orlando was seriously my second favorite route after Ty, I want to help him too XD
There will be a sequal but its set some time after password and wont have Dave in it, or at least last it was mentioned he wouldn't even have a camio. I'm not sure what you mean by Dave's dad not being dead, because he is, the only times he isn't is in the alternate timelines.
Well i'm not sure all the details and wont say all i know since it's spoilery but the sequal is called syndicate and will be investigating something involving the police, and at least two of passwords cast i know will be involved for sure.
HELP , I remove the game and install again and again but i cant get reset the game, it always contains my save routes and then I cant go to Dave Bad Ending again, it stinks, I dont understand this bug :(
The cg's aren't done yet, currently Grizz is working on the dean rewrite. But if you're thinking of playing the itch.io version it isn't currently being updated while Grizz works on getting everything finished up. The itch.io version is the complete BETA version. All updates are currently just on patreon that you can get access to for £1 a month.
this is from october so i think its okay to post but yeah the sprites are going great
The coffee is a way of getting affection with the boys.
Use 'Dave' to get +1 affection with everyone. You can use any of the friends names to get unique dialogue and +1 affection with that person (names must be capitalised).
Theres some others just for dialogue like 'Timber' and 'Chase', i dont know them all
so I'm been watching Keith Ballard's LP of Password and a recurring critique is that none of the characters have a unique voice, they all speak of everything in the same manner, so I would like to help fix that, with my completely unqualified advice based on amateur knowledge of linguistic psychology, I will say which way I think the characters would speak based of their personalities, and hopefully would help make their voices distinct if implemented, maybe, I'm not a writer so who knows
Orlando, Hoss, and Oswin: Syllogistic Form (Given X, then Y; If-then statements, conditional logic); Declarative Form (Sentences are declared as clear-cut statements, with closure);
Orlando and Hoss: Persuasive Cadence (Pacing, word choice, and delivery meant to maximize affect); Familiar Tone (Friendly, colloquial tone to invoke relatability and camaraderie); but how to make Orlando and Hoss' voices distinct from each other?
Oswin: Blunt Delivery (Matter-of-fact language, straightforward and unadorned); Avalanching Facts (Communication via an impersonal series of causal events news anchor style);
Dave and Dean: Self-referencing ("I" language, subjective opinion/belief-centered grammar); Terseness (Brief, minimalist language, stating things statically without much elaboration);
Dave: Ontological Clarifying (Heavy time spent defining initial "terms" and avoiding equivocations); Semantic Disclaimers (Preemptive addressing of common misunderstandings, to ensure comprehension);
Dean: Self-revealing language (Candid details of personal life, oversharing); Direct affirmation of self-properties (Declaring what one is directly, without speculation);
Tyson: Short Phrases (With quick follow-ups); Casual language (Informal tone and style); Vivid Realism (Description of objects/experiences in visceral detail, highlighting the overall feeling evoked); Trendy Language (On-trend slang words and references);
Roswell, Sal, and Benson: Dense Information (Reference-rich, information-heavy sentences); Long Elaborations (Prolonged backstories, long paragraphs, and buildup);
Benson: Backstory & Context (Thorough setup and backstory provided for a given point or topic); Step-by-Step Elaboration (Explanations that follow a brick-by-brick narrative sequence);
Roswell and Sal: Convergent Events (Rather than one linear chronology, the past is explained as events crossing paths); Cross-Domain Synthesis (Tying different domains/layers into the present topic, as real or as metaphors); but how to make Roswell and Sal's voices distinct from each other?
this is all probably bullshit, I would appreciate it if someone who actually knows how to write dialogue would give their 2 cents
i dont really get the point but i'm also tired so wtf. Is the problem you want voice acting or is it just because it's plain text without some mannerisms like slovenly speech?
If its the mannerisms thing the reason is most likely to keep things plain and simple to read. Grizz is australian and some people had problems with the text early on so he changed it all to american. Putting regional colloquialisms into the story would just make it harder for people to follow or understand and in a murder mystery that you need to solve that can be alienating.
By "voice" he's talking about a term in the writing and literary world to refer to how a character's personality and psychology is shown through their choice of words; how they express, what they express, etc.
*Not* accent, dialect, or colloquialisms.
Typically, if every character talks the same, that might not be considered the best dialogue. Though that being a problem in Password is OP's opinion, not mine.
I don't know how far away the next public build is, but the next one will likely be the first one until it goes full release; just need to clean up Dean's route first.
I'm really enjoying password. Very good writing and story building. Thank you it's been a real pleasure even if it is intense and scary. Especially when it guessed my real name. 😁
Is it possible to recover my save data? My old device wont work and my save is on there. Is there a way to get back to the point I was at or change a file to match my old file? I tried usong a save editor but its too complex and the game crashed when i loaded the edited save.
Given no save editor should exist, that's probably why the game crashed. If you're able to access your old device at all, there's a chance your saves are also backed up in %APP DATA%. Failing that, you'll just have to use the skip options available in-game to speed through what you've already seen and get back to where you were.
That's what's planned for the next stage. Dean rewrite is happening on the Patreon side currently and once that's done a lot of things are being culled for expediency.
Well, I finally finished the main story and I'm kind of sad that the story is over, I really liked the characters, they are very charismatic, in relation to the story it's very good, the password mechanics work well and it's cool when you discover the passwords by yourself , in relation to the ending:
SPOILER!!!!!
Dave getting memories from other timelines was something I was already expecting but it was cool to see anyway, there were some things I wanted answered, like what the big Thatanos was, what happened to Orlando's father in the P timeline, but nothing that ruins the game in relation to Taison being the Canonical route, I'm happy and sad, I like Taison, but David and Orlando will always be canonical in my heart, excellent game.
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Hi, I started playing around 1 month Ago. Did ty Path C and A, did Dean A and now for some reason after o got the password right on orlando, It keeps looping and nothing changes, is that normal!? Is the game bugged?
I think you should try choosing the other dialogue option.
Already done that, every single one thats on the loop
Nvm, did It again, and It worked This time
Hi, I recently started playing, I wanted to ask something. I went through Sal's route, and I wanted to know if there is a way for him to survive, or does he necessarily have to die? And I also wanted to ask if it is normal for me to have gotten an ending on day 7, or did I do something wrong? But in general I just want to know if there is a way for Sal to survive?
After resonating, type in the password that was in all caps in Dave's letter
oh ok, i get i
Hey, I did what you said and it worked, but Benson died, is there any way to save him too? I think I missed something because I didn't see any password.
Try with another password, they usually show them in capital letters, a lil hint, it starts with "B"
I actually didn't see any password, I paid close attention but couldn't find it. But I'll try putting some passwords until it works.
I just noticed that the world isn't in capital letters,
pay close attention the the convo with Orlando at the hospitalHey! I did it! Thank you so much! You helped me a lot! I wish I had answered you before, but I completely forgot. I'm so sorry!
You just have to pay more attention to the conversation. The first password is said by Orlando (after Orlando got shot) and 2nd password is said after you put in the first and it was mentioned by Roswell(?)
Does anyone have a document with all the passwords or something? for the people who aren't interested in searching for them while reading
you may see a whole uppercased word when you enter a bad end (after someone died), that is the password of the route.
but there are exceptions on boar route and bear route, you have to found a senrence has only one word, that is the password.
or you can just pay for the patreon member and you will got a list for passwords.
note: you have to input a password on the correct route and correct day.
Thank you, appreciated
i can just give u the password. on the specifist day.
But uhh it ruin the fun honestly.
I would appreciate it I won't ask for any rn I stopped playing long ago but I wanted to restart I know a few paswword cuz I played from back in the day when youd get the passwords at the end of the route, I still remember a letter coming to Dave w the password written on it, I prefered that way, when it was changed I was doing Sals route and was breaking my head against a wall trying to find the password it was not fun, never ended up finding it even after reading it again and I had no fun in that I just wanted to continiue reading instead of searching old txt for a specific word
Hi! I have a problem with the compedium. I alredy have played tyson's epilogue and it doesn't let me play dean's. And yes dean appears in the entry. I don't know what to do. Any advice?
Have you tried closing and reopening the game? Some have reported that that solves their issue.
Yep, many times and it doesn't work U_U and its the android version.
I'll ask around. This has been unchanged for long enough that it shouldn't just be a problem with the code but we'll see.
ok! I checked out the PC version and it works perfectly. After a replayed the game to fill somethings that was missing I was able to play finally Dean´s epilogue and the others. Although the android version never works. But thanks anyway =)
and the final demo is finnaly out in public!
i want to give my thoughts on password (mostly the things i absolutely love about it with some criticism sprinkled in) but i feel like its not yet the time to do so
it was a wild ride watching and learning more about the development of this game and i wish you a good hiatus grizz!
ill keep my support for you and your future projects
good luck!
ok, so I'm a little confused. I was playing the game with Dean as my partner, and I was on A path for the longest time. but Day 17 came and I was struggling with the password.
~SPOILERS
I eventually gave up hoping that I'd get info on what that password was like the previous times but after Ty and Orlando died it told me that I was now on path F. I was hella confused because I had read the last dev log and it said that A and B paths were complete. so now I'm worried that I won't be able to finish it because I went down an incomplete path. also, does this mean there is a C, D, and E path? if so are they also complete?
side note: I continued and saved it on day 21 after not saving after the password, but now there are 2 X's on the square. what are they and is it important that it's the 2nd and 3rd ones?
To get on other paths you miss passwords usually and the X's mean a character is now dead. Also all paths are complete in this build. A is the true end of the game, the other paths are bad ends and such.
A public post on paths A,B,C,D-
https://www.patreon.com/posts/on-topic-of-42690779
Also the password is said by one of the characters on the day, The vault gives you a clue where to look when you go to enter it.
¿Does anyone know the first password of day 1?
It's an easter egg that's been removed. It was 'the end' i think. Now it just force closes password.
Spoiler
I went Tyson's path and was loving everything about it until he finally admits to dave his feelings and they hook up or whatever. Around this time in the game their whole relationship is just never mentioned again and they barely ever even have conversations going forward. It was a lot of game left after this happened too. The entire story is very deep and captivating/interesting but I was really disappointed how the whole history of dave and tyson developing their relationship and finally having eachother just gets dropped and left behind going forward and the rest is Dave talking extensively with pretty much everyone except Tyson. They're whole backstory and relationship was such an amazing build up until they have sex a couple times then they hardly seem to interact at all.
Is there any way to save tyson
Yeah, buddy... That's where the password comes in. If you need a hint I'm sure anyone of us would be willing to provide it, but we need to know what you've done/tried already.
Dont worry I already got it now
But ty
Realest statement ever. Ty es my favorite
I feel like I need to clarify that when I said "ty" I was saying thank you
I'm dead. Laughing my literally ass off. That's funny. Copy that.
Okay... Spoiler-type question time...
What's up with Flora? At the end of the Sal route, he calls her Mrs. Sinclair which would mean she is Roswell's mother, but I'm confused because Oswin is his father and he and Flora are siblings right? I'm probably just being dense, but I'm confused. Can someone explain? Or maybe even say if I'm understanding or not understanding?
I'm confused, what do you mean? Sal isn't Flora's kid. Ozwin is Flora's brother, or she's the adopted sister (it's been a while since i played through so i might be misremembering the adoption thing, but she is Oswins sister). Flora married a rabbit (i think he's a rabbit) thats why she's Flora Sinclair and not Flora Hammond. If you're talking about benson, he's still the family servant even if he did pretty much all the parenting as if he was the hammond childrens father.
You misunderstand me... I fixed my original statement so it wasn't misleading... I apologize for the confusion.
At the end of Sal's route he calls her Mrs. Sinclair. Roswell's last name is Sinclair, yeah? But we know from the main story that Oswin is Roswell's biological father and not his uncle like we were led to believe... So, I'm confused as to how Flora works into it, and if I misunderstood their relationship.
Answer:
She was adopted and was a surrogate so Oswin could have a family.
Oh, coooool!! That makes much more sense! Thanks so much, Grizz!!! I always appreciate that you're active on your page!!!
FOOOUUUUULLLLLLL. I JUST STARTED THE GAME AND ALREADY WANT TO CRY(I picked Dean).
The day 22 picture is taunting me.
Oh my god. Im only six days in. Played for less than a day. And I had that small moment of realization of what the password was when I saw the vault after Resonating. After typing in that password and seeing how its changed the story during dinner, I think it's safe to say this has quickly grown to become one of my favorite visual novels. Amazing work guys, honestly, how many visual novels out there that hook people in so quickly. 10/10.
Yep, has and will always be my favorite, it holds a special place since it was one of the first vns that I ever read
how to get the password exactly i didn't figure any of it out ye
This took DAYS. But I finally finished it. Holy cow what a ride. This made me actually pull open a word doc for notes so I could regularly get passwords and route outlines.
I have a question but it's a spoiler so I'll hide it below
Spoilers!
Dave's talk with Orlando, after everything is said and done. That is a lose end I hadn't thought about until he mentioned it. Orlando's dad isn't dead, so that's still happening. Is there a sequel that's being planned? Is there more content related that will be released when the full game is finished? Orlando was seriously my second favorite route after Ty, I want to help him too XD
There will be a sequal but its set some time after password and wont have Dave in it, or at least last it was mentioned he wouldn't even have a camio. I'm not sure what you mean by Dave's dad not being dead, because he is, the only times he isn't is in the alternate timelines.
Apologies, I meant Orlando's dad
Well i'm not sure all the details and wont say all i know since it's spoilery but the sequal is called syndicate and will be investigating something involving the police, and at least two of passwords cast i know will be involved for sure.
HELP , I remove the game and install again and again but i cant get reset the game, it always contains my save routes and then I cant go to Dave Bad Ending again, it stinks, I dont understand this bug :(
It's because your save files are stored elsewhere. Should be defaulting to My Documents I think?
no clue
%APPDATA\RenPy\PASSWORD is where you should find your save data
thanks yu very much ^^
Saw there was talks of a possible Sprite rework is that still happening?
Also many unfinished cgs?
Should I wait to play once things are completed or?
The cg's aren't done yet, currently Grizz is working on the dean rewrite. But if you're thinking of playing the itch.io version it isn't currently being updated while Grizz works on getting everything finished up. The itch.io version is the complete BETA version. All updates are currently just on patreon that you can get access to for £1 a month.
this is from october so i think its okay to post but yeah the sprites are going great
Patreon updates have all the new sprites? If so I'm in.
They haven't been put in yet Ghostlink is still working on them
Honestly I love at the beginning how it gives you the illusion of free will and name choice only to shoot it down with coffee
The coffee is a way of getting affection with the boys.
Use 'Dave' to get +1 affection with everyone. You can use any of the friends names to get unique dialogue and +1 affection with that person (names must be capitalised).
Theres some others just for dialogue like 'Timber' and 'Chase', i dont know them all
so I'm been watching Keith Ballard's LP of Password and a recurring critique is that none of the characters have a unique voice, they all speak of everything in the same manner, so I would like to help fix that, with my completely unqualified advice based on amateur knowledge of linguistic psychology, I will say which way I think the characters would speak based of their personalities, and hopefully would help make their voices distinct if implemented, maybe, I'm not a writer so who knows
Orlando, Hoss, and Oswin: Syllogistic Form (Given X, then Y; If-then statements, conditional logic); Declarative Form (Sentences are declared as clear-cut statements, with closure);
Orlando and Hoss: Persuasive Cadence (Pacing, word choice, and delivery meant to maximize affect); Familiar Tone (Friendly, colloquial tone to invoke relatability and camaraderie); but how to make Orlando and Hoss' voices distinct from each other?
Oswin: Blunt Delivery (Matter-of-fact language, straightforward and unadorned); Avalanching Facts (Communication via an impersonal series of causal events news anchor style);
Dave and Dean: Self-referencing ("I" language, subjective opinion/belief-centered grammar); Terseness (Brief, minimalist language, stating things statically without much elaboration);
Dave: Ontological Clarifying (Heavy time spent defining initial "terms" and avoiding equivocations); Semantic Disclaimers (Preemptive addressing of common misunderstandings, to ensure comprehension);
Dean: Self-revealing language (Candid details of personal life, oversharing); Direct affirmation of self-properties (Declaring what one is directly, without speculation);
Tyson: Short Phrases (With quick follow-ups); Casual language (Informal tone and style); Vivid Realism (Description of objects/experiences in visceral detail, highlighting the overall feeling evoked); Trendy Language (On-trend slang words and references);
Roswell, Sal, and Benson: Dense Information (Reference-rich, information-heavy sentences); Long Elaborations (Prolonged backstories, long paragraphs, and buildup);
Benson: Backstory & Context (Thorough setup and backstory provided for a given point or topic); Step-by-Step Elaboration (Explanations that follow a brick-by-brick narrative sequence);
Roswell and Sal: Convergent Events (Rather than one linear chronology, the past is explained as events crossing paths); Cross-Domain Synthesis (Tying different domains/layers into the present topic, as real or as metaphors); but how to make Roswell and Sal's voices distinct from each other?
this is all probably bullshit, I would appreciate it if someone who actually knows how to write dialogue would give their 2 cents
i dont really get the point but i'm also tired so wtf. Is the problem you want voice acting or is it just because it's plain text without some mannerisms like slovenly speech?
If its the mannerisms thing the reason is most likely to keep things plain and simple to read. Grizz is australian and some people had problems with the text early on so he changed it all to american. Putting regional colloquialisms into the story would just make it harder for people to follow or understand and in a murder mystery that you need to solve that can be alienating.
By "voice" he's talking about a term in the writing and literary world to refer to how a character's personality and psychology is shown through their choice of words; how they express, what they express, etc.
*Not* accent, dialect, or colloquialisms.
Typically, if every character talks the same, that might not be considered the best dialogue. Though that being a problem in Password is OP's opinion, not mine.
I want to make a video on this game so badly. Just got to wait for the next update so it can feel fresh lol
I don't know how far away the next public build is, but the next one will likely be the first one until it goes full release; just need to clean up Dean's route first.
Awesome, can't wait! ^^
I still would love to make videos on this amazing VN, if that is ok?
Oh sure, go for it.
Awesome!! Thank you ^^
I'm really enjoying password. Very good writing and story building. Thank you it's been a real pleasure even if it is intense and scary. Especially when it guessed my real name. 😁
🥰🥰
Is it possible to recover my save data? My old device wont work and my save is on there. Is there a way to get back to the point I was at or change a file to match my old file? I tried usong a save editor but its too complex and the game crashed when i loaded the edited save.
Given no save editor should exist, that's probably why the game crashed. If you're able to access your old device at all, there's a chance your saves are also backed up in %APP DATA%. Failing that, you'll just have to use the skip options available in-game to speed through what you've already seen and get back to where you were.
I am STRUGGLING. Am I just dumb? How do I start path b??
Reveal Oswin when given the opportunity shortly after saving Benson.
I wonder when the next update is coming out. Or the full releas
Full release is still a while off, Updates happen monthly on Patreon.
I shall remember to subscribe to said patreon then :3
Hm in my honest opinion this game needs an editor and a rewrite. Lots of days where the game drags on with nothing going on.
That's what's planned for the next stage. Dean rewrite is happening on the Patreon side currently and once that's done a lot of things are being culled for expediency.
Well, I finally finished the main story and I'm kind of sad that the story is over, I really liked the characters, they are very charismatic, in relation to the story it's very good, the password mechanics work well and it's cool when you discover the passwords by yourself , in relation to the ending:
SPOILER!!!!!
Dave getting memories from other timelines was something I was already expecting but it was cool to see anyway, there were some things I wanted answered, like what the big Thatanos was, what happened to Orlando's father in the P timeline, but nothing that ruins the game in relation to Taison being the Canonical route, I'm happy and sad, I like Taison, but David and Orlando will always be canonical in my heart, excellent game.
i have a question. what ages are each of the characters?
Roswell 18, Dave and Orlando 19, Hoss 20, Tyson 21, Dean and Sal I think are 23 and 24.