Uh correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember that there was a detailed list of questions, and how questions were processed or something like that. When the update came out for Oswin’s meeting, the list was either on the itch page or in a file once you downloaded it.🐊
Look under view all posts and go to the 0.15 update log...there’s a link to the list of questions....hope this helps
hey, could anyone help me with bensons’s third password? I’ve tried the other two but they are just bad endings, and I’ve tried to guess it for SOOOO long, and wondering if anyone could help
edit: I’ve got the password now thanks @cerberus210
It's just lore since theres no real directions in game of what to ask so it doesn't effect things apart from some dialogue referring to some (think it might just be one thing).
I feel super embarrassed asking this but, does anyone know what background music is played when hoss walks in on benson. I've heard it before but I don't know the name of it and It's driving me up the wall so if anyone can tell me that would be great.
The names of the tracks can be found in the Music Room.
That said, all of the songs in-game were composed for the game, so I'd be interested to know which one you'd heard before and from where all things considered.
Benson has 3 passwords, 2 lead to bad endings and you need to find the next password in each bad end. Grizz did put somthing in hoss's and orlando's route that helps with this as it leads to the last password that you need to progress allowing you to skip the others, so you just do 1 bad end.
I see because I was able to get to day 7 and unfortunately Benson is dead but I have not seen any red texts except for the disembodied voice name. I guess the password is hidden in plain sight?
Well, welcome to the world of VNs! Enjoy as you sink deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole~
Some colored text are very significant while others may just have been used to signify an intense or a particular emotion. Just pay attention to them, just in case.
You need max affection and can't miss a single convosation. The one i kept missing was asking hoss about family which happens if you choose not to follow tyson the second time he gets in an argument with roswel.
No red text in the benson one, the words hidden in the text and gets repeated alot. If you need help grizz put something in orlando and hoss's routes that can help. It still leads to a bad end but gives the last password for bensons.
Just an idea, but Grizz what if you make a Youtube channel consisting of videos including OSTs, VN updates, and idk maybe some announcements for the game's status. That way, it can attract more readers and will let the readers be updated of the vn's content. (just an suggestion tho, im not even sure if its a good idea at all)
Isn't that what the itch.io and public patreon messages and updates are for? As for the OST, its of such high quality that i would assume it would sell well. I honestly wouldn't mind if the OST was added as a separate itch.io project or dlc for this and just get added to as it goes on since i would be more than happy to drop cash up front. I'd easily drop £10 on it can't speak for anyone else tho (and im terrible at judging prices isn't it wonderful).
I'll probably bundle a copy of the OST for existing Patrons at some point once it's fully remastered, and then as additional DLC for Steam release when we get around to it.
The main thing about releasing any of the OST thus far is that they all need tweaks here and there, and I'd rather present the best version of it forward.
I'm sure they would sell really well. To be honest, I wouldn't mind either, even if the project will cost something to have access to it. I'd do probably $15 since its so good to listen to on almost any mood you're on.
Thanks. Also is he supposed to get depressed for awhile. Hope that im still on the path for a good ending. What makes me nervous is how long it has been since I could've entered another trauma password.
The vault works through trauma so dave is just being traumatised again and again using it. There's only 4 paths so i wouldn't worry about that. If anyone is dead you aren't on the best path.
Replaying sal's route and his convo by the pool on day 9 is rather odd. Sal says ''like your dad little abi is..'' showing he knows about daves dad but then the convo is dave revealing about his dad and sal being suprised like he had no idea.
I think it's because Sal didn't know the whole story (how David died and the events after). Dave reveals this fact to Sal when Sal shared his sister's story but only the fact that David's dead. Everything else was omited and therefore Sal is still suprised.
EDIT: Probably Sal is suprised because it's the only problem that bothers Dave all along. He is still shaken up by it and didn't get over it. And Dave didn't share it with him and the group.
A lot of images are missing from the gallery, and a lot of that is being amended in the Patron update in December hopefully, as I can revise that code easier while on the road.
Christ, day 14 was heartbreaking, but cathartic. I'm glad it's finally out there and Dave can start to move on.
It's like a broken bone that set wrong, everything is painful around it and you've become crippled by it. The only way to heal properly is to break it again, but set it right this time.
Alright, so there wasn't a cliffhanger, good... Or was there? Yep, I was wrong. There was a cliffhanger. A hidden one but there was one. Well, here goes my lifeline. *pretend I cliff hanged myself because it's a joke*
P.S.: I hate cliffhangers. >:(
(and to make it even worth reading, I have to comment Day 12 because there's not much content about it here in the comments)
The story was okay. Actually, really well made. Better than I expected.
*SPOILERS AHEAD! JUST SAYING*
(BTW if you don't understand my writings or there's a mistake, excuse my unawareness, my first writings never make sense and are full of mistakes, so I usually rewrite them the next day. This one is so far unedited)
Oswin's theory on diffrent timelines is really painful to read, especially that I don't want to continue. “You made a mistake. You shouldn't even be here. IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT.“ And it's true. If the player has a little sense, it's definitely hard to continue. But it's a part of the life, you make mistakes that you regret but you need to move forward in order to get more info, more of something to start understanding your decisions you've made (although you can just quit the game and start over but I'm getting of track, sorry).
I absolutely adore this day because it has so much replay value. Doing another run gives you quite a lot of new information that you would normally miss if you played in „normal circumstances.“ So. Much. Death. Really feel sorry for you Grizz, typing it all in must have been hard with 4 diffrent outcomes. You could also do a little behind the scenes one day or a speedpaint or anything else (just an idea, it could really slow you down actually, setting it up, managing it and editing it all... that's a lot of work for something that's not even helpful). Your drawings are very clean the last time I checked, less strokes are visible and helping lines are completely gone! And the last update is not the exception. Probably had more time I assume.
The last bit though... Oh, that got me good. Didn't know you will put Jack on the line that early (probably because I haven't made another theory and correct my last one from 5 months back). The running bit I figured, what else was there as an option when Jack the killer comes in to the main storyline. Although, I thought that it would be the same chase like on Day 14 but Tyson is with you. What a night.
I also started commenting on Dave exhausting himself and the day ending too early. The sudden slam to my face got me by surprise (Oswin waking up Dave). No words can describe just how funny it is to start commenting on something and then the game be like: „Stop right there! I can't take your pitiful sobing, just... here, have a little more, so you stop whining again.“ The little was a little but damn Grizz, you got me good. The leader of people's emotions, I like it!
But the Sal thing. Man, I so want to hug Sal and ensure him that everything is going to be okay. It's just sad making me think of him taking care of his plush watermelon. It's adorable but a bit lonely as well. Hugz.
You say "Jack the killer." After reading the day 14 story, Jack might not yet be murderer...the new day 12 of the other story line I agree that he is the murderer...but is he working alone?
There is the part that he asks you about the butler, and when you tell him he is alive and well, he gets gloomy...as if he was expecting him to be dead.
What I will give you is Jack definitely seems to be an evil character and could definitely be the cause of future killings. He also is seen on the phone relaying information to someone (I assume someone in Orlando's family).
If anything, this tells me more that it is probably Orlando.
You're completely right, my bad. It's just funny to call him as „the killer“ because it reminds me of „Jeff the killer.“ He is more as a hitman if any. He's not doing it because he wants to, he's paid to do it (as you already know). It must be a family the Hammond family had set against themselves. I have no clue what family it could be but I agree Orlando's family is a prime suspect with their „questionable acts and past.“
I firmly assert that there's no cliffhangers as of yet. While yes, things might leave on a tense note, or perhaps leaving you wanting more, in any given update the immediate resolution of the scenes takes place. Even in Path C and D here with Dave going into the woods with Tyson.
A cliffhanger would be cutting to black as Dave's running through the woods and you don't know if he's escaped or not.
To clarify though, did you play through Day 14 as well?
OK, it depends on how you put it. With the new information, maybe the question of Tyson presence isn't as much of a cliffhanger as I first thought. On one hand, it wants you to continue, to see what happened in the end. On the other hand, it's like the option with Sal. If you want him dead, he will kill himself. Or will he? Now we now that he WILL kill himself but before the update, it wasn't a cliffhanger but yet there was that feeling of you wanting to know Sal's presence even here. So I guess you're right.
Yes, I've played through Day 14. The ending could be a cliffhanger but for sure isn't a one. Yeah, the characters reference the next day as „a hard one“ but there's no proof, no event or basically anthing else that clearly concludes the day with information yet to be clarified. It's just emotional but reassuring that there's still HOPE among the group. Right?
I've said in the past that there'll be a total of one cliffhanger in the game's production given how/when it'll need to be done and what's feasible within one month's worth of work. If you think what we've seen so far is a cliffhanger, you have no idea given what's coming up.
ESPECIALLY at the bad route where you cant Get the pass at day 10. It broked my heart where he said I love you then at day 12 where he and Dave go to the forrest then that GODDAMN!!! Rabbit(hare) murdered him...
I think? Dave did hear a scream then got back to the mansion... I wish we get TY alive or wounded I just want them to have a good life like Oh my God!!
I cried so much while reading Day 14(Good Timeline) cuz my dad died the same way his dad did. I also played the Day 12(Bad Timeline) and it was tragic, to say the least. This by far is my No.1 fav vn. Thanks for the amazing work Grizz!!!
I used up a whole roll of tissue paper trying to wipe the tears. I can relly relate to Dave especially since my Dad and his Dad has so many similarities. One, they're both police officers, two, they're both named David, and three, they're both dead ;-;
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what should I ask Oswin? Is there anything specific I need to ask him?
You have to think of question yourself. For example, 'Can I trust you' however, there are some question that will alter dialogue in main story a bit.
Uh correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember that there was a detailed list of questions, and how questions were processed or something like that. When the update came out for Oswin’s meeting, the list was either on the itch page or in a file once you downloaded it.🐊
Look under view all posts and go to the 0.15 update log...there’s a link to the list of questions....hope this helps
Unfortunately it looks like the document with the list of questions has been deleted, so no cheat sheet there
Uhm....I still see it....it just takes a little digging :(
How do I go to the vault on Day 11? Can we even go to the vault on that day?
I'm literally only needing to enter that one password, but Dave never goes down there for me when I need him to
Think you need to see what happens in the entire day before it will give you the option to go down.
hey, could anyone help me with bensons’s third password? I’ve tried the other two but they are just bad endings, and I’ve tried to guess it for SOOOO long, and wondering if anyone could help
edit: I’ve got the password now thanks @cerberus210
its in the 2nd bad end and gets repeated alot
Are there certain questions to ask oz or can it be about almost anything?
It's just lore since theres no real directions in game of what to ask so it doesn't effect things apart from some dialogue referring to some (think it might just be one thing).
Very few, but they don't affect the story aside from providing more insight for the keen.
Not anything, but he will answer some specific questions. For example, ask him "Do you like bacon?" and see what he says. Sorry if its a spoiler
I feel super embarrassed asking this but, does anyone know what background music is played when hoss walks in on benson. I've heard it before but I don't know the name of it and It's driving me up the wall so if anyone can tell me that would be great.
The names of the tracks can be found in the Music Room.
That said, all of the songs in-game were composed for the game, so I'd be interested to know which one you'd heard before and from where all things considered.
Day 5 Deans route when they go into the greenhouse and talk about the first time they meet. I was just curious of what that music was.
Can anyone give me a hint for password for Benson death on day 7-8?
Benson has 3 passwords, 2 lead to bad endings and you need to find the next password in each bad end. Grizz did put somthing in hoss's and orlando's route that helps with this as it leads to the last password that you need to progress allowing you to skip the others, so you just do 1 bad end.
I see because I was able to get to day 7 and unfortunately Benson is dead but I have not seen any red texts except for the disembodied voice name. I guess the password is hidden in plain sight?
Hello! Kinda new to the vn scene and decided to try this out. Do the colored text have any special significance to em? Currently doing dean's route.
Sorta red usually means its important, but not all passwords are in red and theres plenty of important things that aren't in red.
Well, welcome to the world of VNs! Enjoy as you sink deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole~
Some colored text are very significant while others may just have been used to signify an intense or a particular emotion. Just pay attention to them, just in case.
"RABBIT hole"
last song gave anxiety yesterday ;-;
WHY CANT I FIND HOSS SECOND CG ITS BREN THREE DAYS IM GOING CRAZY KSHSISHSJSN ;V(((
You need max affection and can't miss a single convosation. The one i kept missing was asking hoss about family which happens if you choose not to follow tyson the second time he gets in an argument with roswel.
Found it -0^0-
Sorry for come here again most im not found the red text im the benso bed ending
No red text in the benson one, the words hidden in the text and gets repeated alot. If you need help grizz put something in orlando and hoss's routes that can help. It still leads to a bad end but gives the last password for bensons.
WHY TYSON DIE (what im do wrong)
theres a password in the bad end that you need to use on the vault before he dies
is the code apear in him bed end?
THAKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
;-; daily check
Hey I got a question what are path A. B. C and D a how do I obtain them?
https://www.patreon.com/posts/42690779
Thanks also thank you again for my dumb comment about day 10 pass.
No problem helping is what i lurk for.
is there a password for day 11 because if not then I just wasted 2 hours playing it over and over.
hidden in plain sight and in red
OH MY GOD THANK YOU. I LOVE YOU. not romantically but thank you. im also really stupid.lol
grizz did a good job hiding it
he did
I love when Roswell makes this face
Me too XD
Hey,can someone tell me the main menu theme song?
Insert password
Still can't find it..do you have a link?
All the songs are owned by grizz and unique to the VN you cant get them anywhere else yet. You can listen to them in the VNs music room tho.
"i ain't gay" proceeds to put bulge in Dave's head
Just an idea, but Grizz what if you make a Youtube channel consisting of videos including OSTs, VN updates, and idk maybe some announcements for the game's status. That way, it can attract more readers and will let the readers be updated of the vn's content. (just an suggestion tho, im not even sure if its a good idea at all)
Isn't that what the itch.io and public patreon messages and updates are for? As for the OST, its of such high quality that i would assume it would sell well. I honestly wouldn't mind if the OST was added as a separate itch.io project or dlc for this and just get added to as it goes on since i would be more than happy to drop cash up front. I'd easily drop £10 on it can't speak for anyone else tho (and im terrible at judging prices isn't it wonderful).
I'll probably bundle a copy of the OST for existing Patrons at some point once it's fully remastered, and then as additional DLC for Steam release when we get around to it.
The main thing about releasing any of the OST thus far is that they all need tweaks here and there, and I'd rather present the best version of it forward.
I'm sure they would sell really well. To be honest, I wouldn't mind either, even if the project will cost something to have access to it. I'd do probably $15 since its so good to listen to on almost any mood you're on.
Is there a password for day 3 because im obv losing my mind.
Not one that effects the story in any way.
Ive seen a few small typos between combos of the words more so spelled like moreso. I don't know if im right or not anyways :3
I don't really think a password for Day 3 matters at all(I wouldnt relly know cuz I never got it at all)
Just an extra thing to do. It doesn't have a story anyhow and is extreme to guess without a hint, so you'll be wasting your time.
Thanks. Also is he supposed to get depressed for awhile. Hope that im still on the path for a good ending. What makes me nervous is how long it has been since I could've entered another trauma password.
The vault works through trauma so dave is just being traumatised again and again using it. There's only 4 paths so i wouldn't worry about that. If anyone is dead you aren't on the best path.
Replaying sal's route and his convo by the pool on day 9 is rather odd. Sal says ''like your dad little abi is..'' showing he knows about daves dad but then the convo is dave revealing about his dad and sal being suprised like he had no idea.
I think it's because Sal didn't know the whole story (how David died and the events after). Dave reveals this fact to Sal when Sal shared his sister's story but only the fact that David's dead. Everything else was omited and therefore Sal is still suprised.
EDIT: Probably Sal is suprised because it's the only problem that bothers Dave all along. He is still shaken up by it and didn't get over it. And Dave didn't share it with him and the group.
Grizz I have a question. Why is Sal's second death not included in the Tidings of Doom in the Gallery? Or was it just late?
A lot of images are missing from the gallery, and a lot of that is being amended in the Patron update in December hopefully, as I can revise that code easier while on the road.
Oh, good luck on trying to amend it.
I can't figure out the day 10 password. Can anyone help me out
hidden in the text on day 10, best hint is daves ''whats the worst case senario'' at the vault
Fr this game is the only thing i think imagine and dream about till today;>; I'm so into it
Christ, day 14 was heartbreaking, but cathartic. I'm glad it's finally out there and Dave can start to move on.
It's like a broken bone that set wrong, everything is painful around it and you've become crippled by it. The only way to heal properly is to break it again, but set it right this time.
That's deep... I like it!
Wow, deeeep
Hot red bath pool
What do u mean by 'Hot red bath poo-WAAAAIIIT A MINUTE!!! OH NO! I LEFT CROC BOY OUTSIDE
Edit: I'm so sorry Sal but I wanted to see if what I thought he meant by it was true(PLS FORGIVE ME)
Vip pool :)
:')
:')
Wait you all people Choose to kill Sal?
Alright, so there wasn't a cliffhanger, good... Or was there? Yep, I was wrong. There was a cliffhanger. A hidden one but there was one. Well, here goes my lifeline. *pretend I cliff hanged myself because it's a joke*
P.S.: I hate cliffhangers. >:(
(and to make it even worth reading, I have to comment Day 12 because there's not much content about it here in the comments)
The story was okay. Actually, really well made. Better than I expected.
*SPOILERS AHEAD! JUST SAYING*
(BTW if you don't understand my writings or there's a mistake, excuse my unawareness, my first writings never make sense and are full of mistakes, so I usually rewrite them the next day. This one is so far unedited)
Oswin's theory on diffrent timelines is really painful to read, especially that I don't want to continue. “You made a mistake. You shouldn't even be here. IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT.“ And it's true. If the player has a little sense, it's definitely hard to continue. But it's a part of the life, you make mistakes that you regret but you need to move forward in order to get more info, more of something to start understanding your decisions you've made (although you can just quit the game and start over but I'm getting of track, sorry).
I absolutely adore this day because it has so much replay value. Doing another run gives you quite a lot of new information that you would normally miss if you played in „normal circumstances.“ So. Much. Death. Really feel sorry for you Grizz, typing it all in must have been hard with 4 diffrent outcomes. You could also do a little behind the scenes one day or a speedpaint or anything else (just an idea, it could really slow you down actually, setting it up, managing it and editing it all... that's a lot of work for something that's not even helpful). Your drawings are very clean the last time I checked, less strokes are visible and helping lines are completely gone! And the last update is not the exception. Probably had more time I assume.
The last bit though... Oh, that got me good. Didn't know you will put Jack on the line that early (probably because I haven't made another theory and correct my last one from 5 months back). The running bit I figured, what else was there as an option when Jack the killer comes in to the main storyline. Although, I thought that it would be the same chase like on Day 14 but Tyson is with you. What a night.
I also started commenting on Dave exhausting himself and the day ending too early. The sudden slam to my face got me by surprise (Oswin waking up Dave). No words can describe just how funny it is to start commenting on something and then the game be like: „Stop right there! I can't take your pitiful sobing, just... here, have a little more, so you stop whining again.“ The little was a little but damn Grizz, you got me good. The leader of people's emotions, I like it!
But the Sal thing. Man, I so want to hug Sal and ensure him that everything is going to be okay. It's just sad making me think of him taking care of his plush watermelon. It's adorable but a bit lonely as well. Hugz.
You say "Jack the killer." After reading the day 14 story, Jack might not yet be murderer...the new day 12 of the other story line I agree that he is the murderer...but is he working alone?
There is the part that he asks you about the butler, and when you tell him he is alive and well, he gets gloomy...as if he was expecting him to be dead.
What I will give you is Jack definitely seems to be an evil character and could definitely be the cause of future killings. He also is seen on the phone relaying information to someone (I assume someone in Orlando's family).
If anything, this tells me more that it is probably Orlando.
You're completely right, my bad. It's just funny to call him as „the killer“ because it reminds me of „Jeff the killer.“ He is more as a hitman if any. He's not doing it because he wants to, he's paid to do it (as you already know). It must be a family the Hammond family had set against themselves. I have no clue what family it could be but I agree Orlando's family is a prime suspect with their „questionable acts and past.“
I firmly assert that there's no cliffhangers as of yet. While yes, things might leave on a tense note, or perhaps leaving you wanting more, in any given update the immediate resolution of the scenes takes place. Even in Path C and D here with Dave going into the woods with Tyson.
A cliffhanger would be cutting to black as Dave's running through the woods and you don't know if he's escaped or not.
To clarify though, did you play through Day 14 as well?
OK, it depends on how you put it. With the new information, maybe the question of Tyson presence isn't as much of a cliffhanger as I first thought. On one hand, it wants you to continue, to see what happened in the end. On the other hand, it's like the option with Sal. If you want him dead, he will kill himself. Or will he? Now we now that he WILL kill himself but before the update, it wasn't a cliffhanger but yet there was that feeling of you wanting to know Sal's presence even here. So I guess you're right.
Yes, I've played through Day 14. The ending could be a cliffhanger but for sure isn't a one. Yeah, the characters reference the next day as „a hard one“ but there's no proof, no event or basically anthing else that clearly concludes the day with information yet to be clarified. It's just emotional but reassuring that there's still HOPE among the group. Right?
Essentially.
I've said in the past that there'll be a total of one cliffhanger in the game's production given how/when it'll need to be done and what's feasible within one month's worth of work. If you think what we've seen so far is a cliffhanger, you have no idea given what's coming up.
heart shattered when tyson said brother and everyone milked it 😭💀
(SPOILERS)
ESPECIALLY at the bad route where you cant Get the pass at day 10. It broked my heart where he said I love you then at day 12 where he and Dave go to the forrest then that GODDAMN!!! Rabbit(hare) murdered him...
I think? Dave did hear a scream then got back to the mansion... I wish we get TY alive or wounded I just want them to have a good life like Oh my God!!
The update is relatable
(not the near death part) but the letting out your feelings part is extremely relatable
This is my fave vn now
I cried so much while reading Day 14(Good Timeline) cuz my dad died the same way his dad did. I also played the Day 12(Bad Timeline) and it was tragic, to say the least. This by far is my No.1 fav vn. Thanks for the amazing work Grizz!!!
I am still crying after 21 hours of reading the novel btw
Hugz to you.
Thanks its relly appreciated
Great now it's stuck in my head :'( i feel kinda sad knowing most of the humanity Went through this same pain
... I fucking bawled my eyes out because the dad part was too relatable...
Same happened the same to mine ;-;
I used up a whole roll of tissue paper trying to wipe the tears. I can relly relate to Dave especially since my Dad and his Dad has so many similarities. One, they're both police officers, two, they're both named David, and three, they're both dead ;-;
UPDATE!!! YESSSSSSS
Thank grizz <3
YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
oh god, forgot today is the new update aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Oh shit, here we go again. For like 25th time? And there better not be another cliffhanger or I'm gonna cliff hang myself.
Damn ... Yeah me too
Still awake~
Sorry, wrong day
—_—
I hate myself
Im waiting~