I really want to pick up Password again, but something happened to my phone (it hard-resetted itself... Thanks oneplus) and now my written down passwords are gone. Could someone please write Tyson's down or point out where I can look them up? If it's not too big of a deal that is. However, otherwise I'll just have to replay all bad endings, I guess.
Btw.: Tyson's still 1# most intriguing and layered FVN-love interest. The best of the best.
If you look on the internet hard enough you can find them. Best not to point or write them down here lest you get your post removed or worse, cause the comment section to shut down. I am pretty sure that every time youre forced to play around with the vault there IS a password that works, even on the first try where there literally is no clues. Let's just say that first password makes the game a little more spicey, so good luck with trying to find it!!! As for the other passwords hopefully rely on your memory. There are clues as the passwords are actually specifically mentioned in the text (except the first 2 and the 1 in the art); You just have to read every word and see if something rings a bell.
I like Tyson too. Out of the whole group, romancing him seems to be the most obvious choice given the history they had.
This is understandable of course, although by that logic no spoiler should be allowed here at all, in theory.
Now there's another question I have: What happened to the new character sprites? I doubt you know, but I used to be patron – not anymore since Password became rather famous – and therefore saw them in posts aside from here I guess. Personally, I was really happy seeing some well deserved character related upgrades.
I see, good luck with that then. It takes priority for obvious reasons, well, life in general does.
I don't think I put it as eloquently as I could have. What I meant is, I prefer supporting less fortunate FVN creators whose works also deserve success.
Your project came a long way, and I hope we can all see the end of an era in the future. Until then, best of the needed requirements! Don't feel bad taking a break when your motivation dwindles. Sorting ones thoughts out from time to time might do wonders.
Thanks a lot, my guy, that will be helpful! I was specifically asking for Tyson's passwords, because his is the only route I'm playing. Perhaps I'll be lucky and remember some while reading.
Hey! Soo... I was whit Dean and I can't find the password for day 10 I think? I tried everything and still nothing, can I ask for a hint, maybe? Thanks for reading
For day 10, the conversation with Benson and Sal (or Roswell/Sal if Benson isn't there). The hint is Dave trying to think of what the worst that could happen is.
Could also just play through the timeline to get that side of the story and see what exactly happens. Because the password gets mentioned there a few times as well.
well this was with the twitter post ''Two hyena boys drag the woman of the house away from work for some nice family time. She loves them both, despite being fed up with them and their antics.''
i am so in love with the soundtrack this oh f god, i spilled eye water at least twice while listening to them. i know i can listen to any of them in the Music Room but is there a way that I can download the music? sorry if its obvious and written somewhere already tho im very stupid
Currently no the music room is the only way but Grizz said it would be for sale when the vn is done when i asked him in the past i think (its been well over a year since i asked)
Well for some reason everytime when I try to join the discord server it keeps giving me the error saying "whoops Unable to accept invite". And to also clarify I don't have the maximum limit of servers plus I can join other servers without any problem as well. So I'm kinda confused on how it's not working for this server in particular.
The only thing I can think of would be that perhaps you have an unverified account given it's marked as a NSFW server? That or you were banned previously from it but I get the impression you haven't been on it before.
Yea I haven't been on the server before so I don't get how it's not working. Also how do I get my account verified instead of it being marked as an NSFW? Cause if that's the cause then I can just fix that and hope that it will work.
Honestly I don't quite know, and only know that could potentially be an issue with a recent member of the server not having access to NSFW-marked channels and needing a solution. I believe you can do it directly through Discord but at this point I'm just guessing.
It sounds like it's a Discord-side problem though, so getting in contact with them might be the way to go? I'd be interested in knowing what the issue is and if there's anything I can do to help, but if it's not a ban then there's not really much else I can do.
i just finished one route and i have to say, i really loved what we have so far! at first the whole password thingie was a bit difficult for me to get, since im not a native english speaker, some stuff got a bit lost for me, but one i figured out, it was hella nice, i really liked the bois a lot, but i fell for Tyson right away, also....kudos to Grizz or the one that wrote the days with the whole.... offing yourself, i found it way too relatable to the point i got tense just reading, its not bad, its really good actually, since i dont think it's easy to wrie about that, so by far 9/10 i'd lower the difficulty a bit by making the passwords a bit more noticeable since sometimes the clues are a bit too vague, but that's just my opinion~ overall a great VN and one that i truly want to see completed, best of luck!
also am i the only one that feels kinda bad doing other routes when you picked your fave or is it just me? i wanna cuddle ty ;w;
I have a question: will we get October's patron update in November or December? I know Grizz has planned a no update for November, so I was just wondering. 🙂🙂🤔🤔
Should be public build next month then december shouldn't have one with january being the next public build.
The missed update it because NaNoWriMo, which if i remember correctly when Grizz explained it, it's a charity writing event. Grizz did say if he can manage an update during NaNoWriMo he would but the chances are very low since he would have his hands full with the event.
I don't know if I should dislike, or like that message. On one hand it's good to know it wasn't suicide, on the other hand: By the gods we have a psychopath on the loose! 😅😅😂😂😂
I had a feeling what Roswell was going to say before he actually said it. It's so sad that (at least so far in the story up to this point) that even if they all survive the month, not all of them will live for long. 😭😭😭😭
I felt like it was kinda predictable...the constant death talk and subtle guilt tripping was the kicker for me...also he has these random moments of being a little irrational (for him, at least) about certain things pertaining to his feelings, that argument. I could understand being mentally hurt by Tyson and all that, but to have Dave literally tell him that 1) He's trying for the better and that he's human (hehe) like everyone else and 2) his home life was rough and thoroughly explained his behaviors, whether they're right wrong actions, and that 3) people deserve second chances or should at least be offered them, and then straight up be like "well still nope tough deal with me being sour," you know he's messed up in the head somewhere (no that was not meant to be a joke)
Yeah he had me feeling sorry for him but then he immediately follows it up with gass lighting Dave with a 'sure im in the wrong too but YOU'RE the one in trouble for it not me, i can just ignore it'. Only to then pretty much say all of Dave's choices and opinions for Dave's own life and future don't matter, that dave can't make decisions on his own and the only thing that matters is what Rosswell wants and thinks.
Then it was just ''Ah yes you're still a massive bellend ..... yay'' -_-.
This was maybe a little too subtle and in need of adjustment on my end.
Consider things from Roswell's perspective. He's only seen this guy who's been toxic lingering around someone he cares about. He's not seen anything to warrant that Tyson has changed, just the insistence from Dave that he has. For him, this is troubling because after the month is up, he's scared that he's leaving his friend with someone abusive and that has some level of emotional compromise over.
But separate to that, Dave's not giving Roswell a fair shot of it. He invited Tyson without considering the trauma of what Tyson did to them as kids. Dave also didn't acknowledge that what what Tyson did was wrong, just that he was different and painted Roswell as the villain for not letting it go. As far as friends go, Dave was very much in the wrong for dismissing Roswell's feelings even if they were not the greatest. I feel like Roswell's reasoning here is sound, if still mired by emotional baggage he hasn't let go, and he's justified in wanting Dave to apologize.
Imagine your friend broke up with their boyfriend and you brought said boyfriend to a party as a friend. If the breakup was messy as all hell, is that really all that appropriate?
But Tyson had noticeably changed as Orlando who went through the same thing as Roswell admits that he noticed changes in Tyson and was willing to give him a chance. If Roswell hasn’t noticed it even though Orlando did and all the others even say he’s ‘’being good’’, then that just shows that Roswell is refusing to acknowledge any changes or even accept that he can change. (rather shitty behaviour)
Dave invited Tyson without asking-
The point was already dealt with when Tyson called him out for it and you can apologise. If Roswell still refuses to accept that, it is his choice that he will not forgive his ‘’best friend’’ and would rather hold a petty grudge against him despite knowing Dave honestly never meant any harm. (rather shitty attitude and petty behaviour)
Dave doesn’t acknowledge that what Tyson did was wrong-
While not outright saying ‘Tyson was bad’ while explaining to Roswell why Tyson did what he did, he did indirectly acknowledge Tyson did bad stuff but did it to survive because if he didn’t he would starve to death. Which Roswell says survival ‘’isn’t an excuse’’. (of course survival isn’t an excuse you should just accept you are going to starve to death and lay down and die )
Imagine your friend broke up with their boyfriend and you brought said boyfriend to a party as a friend. If the breakup was messy as all hell-
Have actually been in a similar situation where both of them was part of our friend group. Long story short after she caused a scene for about 2-3 days, she realised it changed nothing. Her causing a scene about it only harmed everyone around her, didn’t change the situation she was in and did nothing but make her feel better. Since no one was forcing them to interact with each other or just start making out with each other, she realised she could ignore his very existence rather than swing her emotional hang-ups around like a weapon damaging everyone around her.
Self-awareness and self-reflection are hell of a thing.
Did it this way because i want to try make the points clear that this isn't from a 'I <3 TYSON' view point. Roswells just genuinly seems to act like he thinks about all his options in a situation and then chooses to do the most shitty one. As i said in a patreon post i don't get Roswells motives for things. Not his 'get even' or just to be remembered and all thoes kind of things it's more his core motives.
Like when he first meets dave and his first instinct is to immediately manipulate him to get what he wants. No hesitation, no getting to know him just instant manipulation.
And Dave looks back on that fondly. WHY?
AH yes that time i was manipulated by him, good times, such fond memories of being used.
(how many times will i edit this? currently 5 and still sure i've fked somthing up)
This circles back around to where I may have been too subtle. Roswell is meant to be in the right, but the interplay between a traumatised Dave using Tyson as a crutch along with Roswell's trauma of what still lingers from when they were kids is rough to balance. Emotional scarring goes deep basically.
And when they first met? You mean when they were like 4? :'D
Roswell did try to give Tyson a chance. Second or third day, he tries to have a polite conversation with him and says something mildly offensive which makes Tyson fly off the handle.
Everyone deserves a second chance, but they have to actually be willing to own up to their mistakes. Tyson specifically makes a point of not apologizing for bullying them and refuses to until he's essentially forced into it. I get that he did what he had to to survive, but that doesn't stop him from acknowledging that he hurt people and trying to make amends with them. Not apologizing is 100% shitty behavior.
It seems Tyson's arc is about becoming a better person but for the first half of the month he was absolutely not there yet and I'd say Roswell's attitude towards him is justified 80% of the time.
It was 'the end' but it was an easter egg that you wont be able to see unless you download build 15 or earlier i think. Now it just force quits the game since quitting the game is 'ending' it.
If you're talking insofar as romantically inclined, then correct. There might be CGs where those two feature prominently but the framing won't be as lovers.
The last bit of the game we're about into is very much a case of stopping the bad thing happening and not dating sim.
im fucking scared to start this because i am afraid of bad endings (are there even a phobia like that?), but hey, i remember i survived Echo without getting most of the bad ends so i might as well give this a shot.
Don't be afraid of bad endings here and don't think you've done something wrong if you get one. Reading through and experiencing them is just part of the game and sometimes necessary to find passwords.
The bad ends are necessary as most passwords you need for the vault are in them. Echo is just depression is VN form. Password has more nuance and isn't just doom no matter the choices you make. Any bad end leads to the better end, remember to save when you can go the vault.
Don't worry. Getting the bad endings are actually very useful in this game, because they will help you in figuring out the passwords for the good ending (i.e noone has to die).
I have a theory about the vault in general that's been stuck in my head for a while and just want to get it out so here we go. *SPOILERS*
Ok let's start with something basic first. We know that the people who can use the vault are David, Dave, Memphis, Orlando, Oswin and possibly Florencia. From there we also know that the vault relies on trauma thus why David saw Dave die and tried to save him (Oswin's explanation in day 17 if I remember correctly), Dave sees his friends during the month dead and tries to save them and then finally Orlando for sure saw Dave dead and tries to save him.
Now Orlando does say on his route what was the word that he used to activate the vault. If you go to put the code on day 3 and/or 4 it says that the password date is incorrect as it does with every other password that isn't meant for day 3 and/or 4, meaning that the password can be used. The thing that messes this up is apparently that you cannot see your own death in the vault as Oswin and Thanatos have said. Another reference is when Dave says to Thanatos that since the vault can't show you dead, Thanatos should'nt be able to actually know what happens on a timeline after the vault opens and he agrees that it is possible though he doubts it.
Now here comes the theory. So basically we have info that the vault can't show us our death and it relies on trauma, but what if it CAN show us our death but the circumstances are specific? As stated above only 4-6 people can use the vault from the story's cast and all of them except Dave haven't used it much. We know all the deaths and we can draw some conclusions. Every death is traumatic to Dave and that's why we are able to put a password for it. But what if Dave's own death wasn't traumatic enough for him? If you died instantly or if you were unconcious and then killed you wouldn't have time to process the event as traumatic. Same goes for Orlando. If he was in pain during his dying time he would not have a calm expression as stated by Dave thus the event wasn't exactly traumatic for Orlando. The very same fact could actually go for David, if he is dead, and Oswin! Oswin should have died instantly to not be able to call for help, so not enough time to make the even traumatic. Same for David. If he died in a shootout he wouldn't be able to see it because there is a chance that he would die instantly.
But then again there is Thanatos himself that could contradict this. But there is another fact that should at least be accounted for. Thanatos himself states that while he is an open-source AI he has commands he must execute, probably in account of Florencia, meaning he doesn't have complete control. That would mean that Florencia and Reginald could have set up a failsafe where Thanatos couldn't see his own death and prevent it, in case of an emergency where he became too dangerous and needed to be disabled. Also since Thanatos isn't alive it could be that he is lacking emotions thus not able to process trauma and see his own death.
With that done, there is one question? What would constitute a death traumatic enough but also able to be used by the vault, meaning that there is enough time to process it? Simple. A death like any of the other characters that don't use the vault. If you pay attention you will notice that everyone was at least alive for a bit (Hoss, Rosswell and Benson i will admit that they are debatable) and suffered a not so pleasant and quick death, in contrast to Benson's. It could be that somehow by either sheer bad luck or someone orchestrating events everyone who can use the vault die in a quick way while the others do not (again 3 people are debatable here). So there could be a new password that will show us Dave's own death and we have to prevent it, which in this case if this theory is correct it would mean that he didn't immidieatly and possibly suffered.
Ah, there might have been something that fell through the cracks but I'll try and clarify.
If you're getting a flag from using the password Orlando used, that might be a bug. There's nothing in the script on my end that checks for that word in particular.
Then as far as traumatic events go, morphic resonance works on trauma, by extension so does the vault. But we know after talking to Thanatos on day 17 that he's unaware if he's "died" at all too. The reason being you can't be traumatized by something if it kills you. This is the main reason you can't see your own death in the vault given a lot of it can be described as inherited memory from a past version of yourself. Dave is traumatized when he seems Benson dead. Orlando is traumatized when he finds Dave dead. Dave can't be traumatized by his own death, or rather pass on the memory of the trauma given he doesn't live through it to remember it.
Looking at David's example, he saw Dave die and it's presumed that in a previous loop to this one he survived the shootout whereas Dave didn't. The 'event' ended with David alive and traumatized and Dave was dead, fulfilling the requirements for a vault vision in the next iteration of the universe
For us to get a vault vision specifically of Dave's death, we'd need to be seeing things from (or more accurately in the perspective of) a different character.
is there any kind of guide?? my literal first play through i chose to go all tyson and i keep ending with the bad one, it keeps taking me back to the morning but it always comes back to the bad ending :( some sort of guide would be amazing!!!!
omg i didnt see it before, because i was so sad and a little mad about the whole situation that i skipped pass the password and that only made it more frustrating, so thank you for the tip!!! much appreciated :DDD!!!!!!!!!!!
I discovered this visual novel while searching games on itch.io, and i got to say that this game HITS hard. Right now its kinda hard for me to be happy and cheerful ; and when I l played this game it felt real. The characters feel so real, their expressions, their reactions, everything seems real and i love that. This experience made me reflect and think a lot of things in my life: what i'm searching for, the people around me, and more things. I got attached with some characters, i have a folder with a lot of pictures of moments in the game that made me laugh, or made me sad ; and its very nice to see them again. Thank you so much for bringing this great experience to us, it really helped me a lot ; i am very grateful. Great job :)
You used to be able to name dave but since he has so much personality and established backstory it was decided he would be his own character so he's just dave.
The cup name actually gives you +1 affection with who you put in it and you get some unique text of daves reaction. Just putting dave gets +1 with all.
That right, the difference is Daves reaction to seeing the name. It does help getting the affection actions like kissing Hoss or Dean and getting a hug from Sal.
Seeing Daves reaction to getting a cup with Tyson's name on it from Roswell just makes me laugh.
Does it actually do anything specific? I've never tried it because it just seemed like an easter egg, but I'd be willing to go to do it if anything changes beside that line of dialogue. I'm not expecting like an entire CG or whatever by doing it, but I like exploring this game :)
Day 17 password is awkward because of what it is any hints are too specific. I suppose i can say it's said by orlando. Other than that i'm not sure if we need day 17s password (try going through tysons route without the password and then anyother character and you'll see what i mean)
hey there. i know the password already so i can help a bit. just as Grizz and Cerberus said: pay close to what Orlando is saying. what did he say that connects him and Tyson. it could be almost anything sure, but there is something there that might be sooo obvious that you would be like "oh my gosh i wish i seen that sooner. I can give you a password that is like a hint but Thanatos wont give it away, hopefully Grizz doesn't think of this as cheating as long as i don't give away the actual password. until i'm given approval that i'm allowed to say the actual password (not the one that gives it away) think of the sentence "He was just as irritable when I went to go talk to him." there is a password that wont give away anything but you wont access anything either except Thanatos saying you're close. make sure to read.
Started Passwords about a week ago and I love it! Went through pretty much most (?) of the routes and figured out most (if not all) of the passwords. But that week ago, I thought I saw that the status of this game said Released (i.e. Completed). I probably just overlooked it but I was sad when I realized I hit the end of several demos scenes.
Ah, that might've been the Devlog perhaps? That update itself is "Released" but the game is far from finished. When I search it publicly it still says as "In Development" in the game search so apologies for any confusion.
if we asume that Thanatos is reciving its orders from someone in a previus timeline then that means that the mastermind in this timeline might be just as clueless as everyone else
this also would explain what happen to Sal in day 10, whoever was giving orders to Sal would need to have a lot of imformation that couldn't be obtain on the spot, they need to know that Sal is vulnerable to hypnosis and that he could be leaded to kill someone, if the mastermind is from a previous timeline they could know all of that and order Thanatos to give commands to Sal
Florencia said that Dave could also a mastermind as his choices determined much of what happened, this could be foreshadowing
i know is kinda crazy but i still wanted to put this theory out there
also isn't Thanatos a robot incapable of empathy, why would he be angry at someone for causing his master's death, unless his master dying gets in the way of him getting what he wants
So I can look into it properly: 1. PC Build? 2. Are you running it outside of the zipped file or are you running it directly from the zipped file? 3. Have you run into this issue with any other furry VNs?
Reason I ask is because most of that looks like back-end Renpy SDK stuff as opposed to something Password specific, but I'll look into it.
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Well that was freaking wholesome!!! 😍😍😍😍
omg tyson update
I really want to pick up Password again, but something happened to my phone (it hard-resetted itself... Thanks oneplus) and now my written down passwords are gone. Could someone please write Tyson's down or point out where I can look them up? If it's not too big of a deal that is. However, otherwise I'll just have to replay all bad endings, I guess.
Btw.: Tyson's still 1# most intriguing and layered FVN-love interest. The best of the best.
If you look on the internet hard enough you can find them. Best not to point or write them down here lest you get your post removed or worse, cause the comment section to shut down. I am pretty sure that every time youre forced to play around with the vault there IS a password that works, even on the first try where there literally is no clues. Let's just say that first password makes the game a little more spicey, so good luck with trying to find it!!! As for the other passwords hopefully rely on your memory. There are clues as the passwords are actually specifically mentioned in the text (except the first 2 and the 1 in the art); You just have to read every word and see if something rings a bell.
I like Tyson too. Out of the whole group, romancing him seems to be the most obvious choice given the history they had.
The first password? It just... force closes the game. Plus another un-hinted one on Day 3 I use for testing. Beyond that they're all story-related.
But you're right. I typically don't like the passwords themselves shared in general, let alone here mostly for those wanting to avoid spoilers.
Really? Curious...
This is understandable of course, although by that logic no spoiler should be allowed here at all, in theory.
Now there's another question I have: What happened to the new character sprites? I doubt you know, but I used to be patron – not anymore since Password became rather famous – and therefore saw them in posts aside from here I guess. Personally, I was really happy seeing some well deserved character related upgrades.
Very very slowly being worked on is the answer. I'm setting some time aside after I move house around Christmas to try and get some more stuff done.
I see, good luck with that then. It takes priority for obvious reasons, well, life in general does.
I don't think I put it as eloquently as I could have. What I meant is, I prefer supporting less fortunate FVN creators whose works also deserve success.
Your project came a long way, and I hope we can all see the end of an era in the future. Until then, best of the needed requirements! Don't feel bad taking a break when your motivation dwindles. Sorting ones thoughts out from time to time might do wonders.
Thanks a lot, my guy, that will be helpful! I was specifically asking for Tyson's passwords, because his is the only route I'm playing. Perhaps I'll be lucky and remember some while reading.
Does anyone know if Grizz is doing well? 🙂🙂🙂🤔🤔🤔
Aside from getting my ass kicked from my second dose of vaccine, I'm doing alright.
get well soon then
Oooh that's awful, I hope you get well soon. 🙂🙂
i think I'm lucky since I didn't feel anything on second dose... My friends said 2nd dose making you more sick than the first one
Hey! Soo... I was whit Dean and I can't find the password for day 10 I think? I tried everything and still nothing, can I ask for a hint, maybe? Thanks for reading
For day 10, the conversation with Benson and Sal (or Roswell/Sal if Benson isn't there). The hint is Dave trying to think of what the worst that could happen is.
Could also just play through the timeline to get that side of the story and see what exactly happens. Because the password gets mentioned there a few times as well.
Thanks! I found it and I don't know if it's only one option or more, but it doesn't matter, thanks again! <3
Does anyone have the Poker Night picture? Or is that not appropriate to post on here?🤔🤔🤔
Have a good NaNoWriMo Grizz. 😃😃😃
I want Tyson to get all gay and mushy with me. 😍😍😍 Who's with me???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Our wish came true
If anyone wanted to see daves mother Grizz did this on twitter way back when.
What...are they doing? 😂😂🤔🤔 Also I am absolutely digging her style. 😎😎🙂🙂
well this was with the twitter post ''Two hyena boys drag the woman of the house away from work for some nice family time. She loves them both, despite being fed up with them and their antics.''
I don't think Grizz can make Dave anymore adorable than he already is. 😍😍😍
Edit: Thank you for posting that and then explaining it to me. 🙂🙂
they all look so happy wow
i am so in love with the soundtrack this oh f god, i spilled eye water at least twice while listening to them. i know i can listen to any of them in the Music Room but is there a way that I can download the music? sorry if its obvious and written somewhere already tho im very stupid
Currently no the music room is the only way but Grizz said it would be for sale when the vn is done when i asked him in the past i think (its been well over a year since i asked)
wow ok cool tks mahomie
You're not stupid for asking that. 🙂🙂
just not now :) but tks
Does anyone have the new discord link to this server I can't get into it, I think the link is expired.
Can confirm that the link is correct and working on my end.
Well for some reason everytime when I try to join the discord server it keeps giving me the error saying "whoops Unable to accept invite". And to also clarify I don't have the maximum limit of servers plus I can join other servers without any problem as well. So I'm kinda confused on how it's not working for this server in particular.
The only thing I can think of would be that perhaps you have an unverified account given it's marked as a NSFW server? That or you were banned previously from it but I get the impression you haven't been on it before.
Yea I haven't been on the server before so I don't get how it's not working. Also how do I get my account verified instead of it being marked as an NSFW? Cause if that's the cause then I can just fix that and hope that it will work.
Honestly I don't quite know, and only know that could potentially be an issue with a recent member of the server not having access to NSFW-marked channels and needing a solution. I believe you can do it directly through Discord but at this point I'm just guessing.
It sounds like it's a Discord-side problem though, so getting in contact with them might be the way to go? I'd be interested in knowing what the issue is and if there's anything I can do to help, but if it's not a ban then there's not really much else I can do.
SPOILERS! but also my opinion/early review?
i just finished one route and i have to say, i really loved what we have so far! at first the whole password thingie was a bit difficult for me to get, since im not a native english speaker, some stuff got a bit lost for me, but one i figured out, it was hella nice, i really liked the bois a lot, but i fell for Tyson right away, also....kudos to Grizz or the one that wrote the days with the whole.... offing yourself, i found it way too relatable to the point i got tense just reading, its not bad, its really good actually, since i dont think it's easy to wrie about that, so by far 9/10
i'd lower the difficulty a bit by making the passwords a bit more noticeable since sometimes the clues are a bit too vague, but that's just my opinion~ overall a great VN and one that i truly want to see completed, best of luck!
also am i the only one that feels kinda bad doing other routes when you picked your fave or is it just me? i wanna cuddle ty ;w;
ty gang /_\
whats the password for the days before 6 im stump
It depends on who you picked as a partner.
If it's the one that leads to the first bad end, it's hidden in the bad ending and is a word that has more attention drawn to it.
I have a question: will we get October's patron update in November or December? I know Grizz has planned a no update for November, so I was just wondering. 🙂🙂🤔🤔
Should be public build next month then december shouldn't have one with january being the next public build.
The missed update it because NaNoWriMo, which if i remember correctly when Grizz explained it, it's a charity writing event. Grizz did say if he can manage an update during NaNoWriMo he would but the chances are very low since he would have his hands full with the event.
This ^
MORE Spoilers Ahead:😩😩😩
In Path B, does Oswin kill himself? I am leaning towards it, but dialog makes me think otherwise. But this is an unfinished product so...
Nope, 100% murdered.
I don't know if I should dislike, or like that message. On one hand it's good to know it wasn't suicide, on the other hand: By the gods we have a psychopath on the loose! 😅😅😂😂😂
Btw how did you go to path b?
I don't know how to respond to this so I'm going to put this as a spoiler:
You expose Oz when Roswell asks if there is only eight people in the mansion.
the blank spaces in these comments is so funny to me lol
Spoilers ahead:
Hoss' brother and sister are so cute! Interesting that they're not blood related, but family doesn't go by blood relations. 😍😍😍
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I'm legit mad at Roswell for that...I was waiting for the bomb drop and I got it...like damn dude really
LITERALLY GIVE ME SAL I AM HUGGING THE AIR RIGHT NOW AHHH🐊🐊🐊🐊🐊
Spoilers Ahead:
I had a feeling what Roswell was going to say before he actually said it. It's so sad that (at least so far in the story up to this point) that even if they all survive the month, not all of them will live for long. 😭😭😭😭
I felt like it was kinda predictable...the constant death talk and subtle guilt tripping was the kicker for me...also he has these random moments of being a little irrational (for him, at least) about certain things pertaining to his feelings, that argument. I could understand being mentally hurt by Tyson and all that, but to have Dave literally tell him that 1) He's trying for the better and that he's human (hehe) like everyone else and 2) his home life was rough and thoroughly explained his behaviors, whether they're right wrong actions, and that 3) people deserve second chances or should at least be offered them, and then straight up be like "well still nope tough deal with me being sour," you know he's messed up in the head somewhere (no that was not meant to be a joke)
Yeah he had me feeling sorry for him but then he immediately follows it up with gass lighting Dave with a 'sure im in the wrong too but YOU'RE the one in trouble for it not me, i can just ignore it'. Only to then pretty much say all of Dave's choices and opinions for Dave's own life and future don't matter, that dave can't make decisions on his own and the only thing that matters is what Rosswell wants and thinks.
Then it was just ''Ah yes you're still a massive bellend ..... yay'' -_-.
This was maybe a little too subtle and in need of adjustment on my end.
Consider things from Roswell's perspective. He's only seen this guy who's been toxic lingering around someone he cares about. He's not seen anything to warrant that Tyson has changed, just the insistence from Dave that he has. For him, this is troubling because after the month is up, he's scared that he's leaving his friend with someone abusive and that has some level of emotional compromise over.
But separate to that, Dave's not giving Roswell a fair shot of it. He invited Tyson without considering the trauma of what Tyson did to them as kids. Dave also didn't acknowledge that what what Tyson did was wrong, just that he was different and painted Roswell as the villain for not letting it go. As far as friends go, Dave was very much in the wrong for dismissing Roswell's feelings even if they were not the greatest. I feel like Roswell's reasoning here is sound, if still mired by emotional baggage he hasn't let go, and he's justified in wanting Dave to apologize.
Imagine your friend broke up with their boyfriend and you brought said boyfriend to a party as a friend. If the breakup was messy as all hell, is that really all that appropriate?
Roswell hasn’t noticed a change-
But Tyson had noticeably changed as Orlando who went through the same thing as Roswell admits that he noticed changes in Tyson and was willing to give him a chance. If Roswell hasn’t noticed it even though Orlando did and all the others even say he’s ‘’being good’’, then that just shows that Roswell is refusing to acknowledge any changes or even accept that he can change. (rather shitty behaviour)
Dave invited Tyson without asking-
The point was already dealt with when Tyson called him out for it and you can apologise. If Roswell still refuses to accept that, it is his choice that he will not forgive his ‘’best friend’’ and would rather hold a petty grudge against him despite knowing Dave honestly never meant any harm. (rather shitty attitude and petty behaviour)
Dave doesn’t acknowledge that what Tyson did was wrong-
While not outright saying ‘Tyson was bad’ while explaining to Roswell why Tyson did what he did, he did indirectly acknowledge Tyson did bad stuff but did it to survive because if he didn’t he would starve to death. Which Roswell says survival ‘’isn’t an excuse’’. (of course survival isn’t an excuse you should just accept you are going to starve to death and lay down and die )
Imagine your friend broke up with their boyfriend and you brought said boyfriend to a party as a friend. If the breakup was messy as all hell-
Have actually been in a similar situation where both of them was part of our friend group. Long story short after she caused a scene for about 2-3 days, she realised it changed nothing. Her causing a scene about it only harmed everyone around her, didn’t change the situation she was in and did nothing but make her feel better. Since no one was forcing them to interact with each other or just start making out with each other, she realised she could ignore his very existence rather than swing her emotional hang-ups around like a weapon damaging everyone around her.
Self-awareness and self-reflection are hell of a thing.
Did it this way because i want to try make the points clear that this isn't from a 'I <3 TYSON' view point. Roswells just genuinly seems to act like he thinks about all his options in a situation and then chooses to do the most shitty one. As i said in a patreon post i don't get Roswells motives for things. Not his 'get even' or just to be remembered and all thoes kind of things it's more his core motives.
Like when he first meets dave and his first instinct is to immediately manipulate him to get what he wants. No hesitation, no getting to know him just instant manipulation.
And Dave looks back on that fondly. WHY?
AH yes that time i was manipulated by him, good times, such fond memories of being used.
(how many times will i edit this? currently 5 and still sure i've fked somthing up)
This circles back around to where I may have been too subtle. Roswell is meant to be in the right, but the interplay between a traumatised Dave using Tyson as a crutch along with Roswell's trauma of what still lingers from when they were kids is rough to balance. Emotional scarring goes deep basically.
And when they first met? You mean when they were like 4? :'D
Roswell did try to give Tyson a chance. Second or third day, he tries to have a polite conversation with him and says something mildly offensive which makes Tyson fly off the handle.
Everyone deserves a second chance, but they have to actually be willing to own up to their mistakes. Tyson specifically makes a point of not apologizing for bullying them and refuses to until he's essentially forced into it. I get that he did what he had to to survive, but that doesn't stop him from acknowledging that he hurt people and trying to make amends with them. Not apologizing is 100% shitty behavior.
It seems Tyson's arc is about becoming a better person but for the first half of the month he was absolutely not there yet and I'd say Roswell's attitude towards him is justified 80% of the time.
LOL i cant figure out the password for day one ;-;
Some days don't have passwords...story-relevant ones at least
It was 'the end' but it was an easter egg that you wont be able to see unless you download build 15 or earlier i think. Now it just force quits the game since quitting the game is 'ending' it.
What did the easter egg entail? I am curious now. 🤔🤔🤔
You can still download the build from the public patreon post: https://www.patreon.com/posts/public-demo-a0-31939495
That's... a worry. That file shouldn't be accessible anymore. I'll have to do something about that maybe.
Thought it was strange when i decided to do the day 1 password like last year but wasn't going to complain, it doesn't really seem to harm anything.
Well if Grizz does disable the download then i will just summarize it as entirely non cannon but you open the vault.
Also as an amendment to this, a vague nod to 999/Zero Escape as a whole.
wait wait wait day 19 is the end??
Of the romance arcs, yes.
For clarification, does that mean the end of 1-on-1 partner days in general? Like no more "Dean Day x"
Or just the cut off point of whether the interactions will be platonic or romantic going forward.
Pretty much the former. If Dean is Dave's boyfriend and the scene is Dean centric, it'll play out slightly differently than if they stayed as friends.
Consider it more a case of, I've potentially given Dave a boyfriend, now keep him alive.
Does that mean from day 19 onwards, there aren't gonna be anymore "Dave x Dean" CGs for example ?
If you're talking insofar as romantically inclined, then correct. There might be CGs where those two feature prominently but the framing won't be as lovers.
The last bit of the game we're about into is very much a case of stopping the bad thing happening and not dating sim.
New public build: https://www.patreon.com/posts/public-demo-a0-57401226
are there any interactions that only happen when you input the correct password on day 3?
I hope this isn't too vague to answer, I don't know how well known the password is and I don't wanna spoil what it does.
Nope! That's really just a developer cheat code. It won't be in-game in the final release probably.
Would be a neat easter egg to have in the release but I wouldn't miss it much if it was removed.
im fucking scared to start this because i am afraid of bad endings (are there even a phobia like that?), but hey, i remember i survived Echo
without getting most of the bad endsso i might as well give this a shot.Don't be afraid of bad endings here and don't think you've done something wrong if you get one. Reading through and experiencing them is just part of the game and sometimes necessary to find passwords.
im just scared of accidentally letting pple dying ;-; but ok i will try it tks guys
The bad ends are necessary as most passwords you need for the vault are in them. Echo is just depression is VN form. Password has more nuance and isn't just doom no matter the choices you make. Any bad end leads to the better end, remember to save when you can go the vault.
Blackgate is the literal depression incarnate in VN form, Echo is more like anxiety in VN form lmao
okay you made me 3x more scared now (: but tks
Don't worry. Getting the bad endings are actually very useful in this game, because they will help you in figuring out the passwords for the good ending (i.e noone has to die).
I have a theory about the vault in general that's been stuck in my head for a while and just want to get it out so here we go.
*SPOILERS*
Ok let's start with something basic first. We know that the people who can use the vault are David, Dave, Memphis, Orlando, Oswin and possibly Florencia. From there we also know that the vault relies on trauma thus why David saw Dave die and tried to save him (Oswin's explanation in day 17 if I remember correctly), Dave sees his friends during the month dead and tries to save them and then finally Orlando for sure saw Dave dead and tries to save him.
Now Orlando does say on his route what was the word that he used to activate the vault. If you go to put the code on day 3 and/or 4 it says that the password date is incorrect as it does with every other password that isn't meant for day 3 and/or 4, meaning that the password can be used. The thing that messes this up is apparently that you cannot see your own death in the vault as Oswin and Thanatos have said. Another reference is when Dave says to Thanatos that since the vault can't show you dead, Thanatos should'nt be able to actually know what happens on a timeline after the vault opens and he agrees that it is possible though he doubts it.
Now here comes the theory. So basically we have info that the vault can't show us our death and it relies on trauma, but what if it CAN show us our death but the circumstances are specific?
As stated above only 4-6 people can use the vault from the story's cast and all of them except Dave haven't used it much. We know all the deaths and we can draw some conclusions. Every death is traumatic to Dave and that's why we are able to put a password for it. But what if Dave's own death wasn't traumatic enough for him? If you died instantly or if you were unconcious and then killed you wouldn't have time to process the event as traumatic. Same goes for Orlando. If he was in pain during his dying time he would not have a calm expression as stated by Dave thus the event wasn't exactly traumatic for Orlando. The very same fact could actually go for David, if he is dead, and Oswin! Oswin should have died instantly to not be able to call for help, so not enough time to make the even traumatic. Same for David. If he died in a shootout he wouldn't be able to see it because there is a chance that he would die instantly.
But then again there is Thanatos himself that could contradict this. But there is another fact that should at least be accounted for. Thanatos himself states that while he is an open-source AI he has commands he must execute, probably in account of Florencia, meaning he doesn't have complete control. That would mean that Florencia and Reginald could have set up a failsafe where Thanatos couldn't see his own death and prevent it, in case of an emergency where he became too dangerous and needed to be disabled. Also since Thanatos isn't alive it could be that he is lacking emotions thus not able to process trauma and see his own death.
With that done, there is one question? What would constitute a death traumatic enough but also able to be used by the vault, meaning that there is enough time to process it? Simple. A death like any of the other characters that don't use the vault. If you pay attention you will notice that everyone was at least alive for a bit (Hoss, Rosswell and Benson i will admit that they are debatable) and suffered a not so pleasant and quick death, in contrast to Benson's. It could be that somehow by either sheer bad luck or someone orchestrating events everyone who can use the vault die in a quick way while the others do not (again 3 people are debatable here). So there could be a new password that will show us Dave's own death and we have to prevent it, which in this case if this theory is correct it would mean that he didn't immidieatly and possibly suffered.
That is all people. Thank you for your time.
Ah, there might have been something that fell through the cracks but I'll try and clarify.
If you're getting a flag from using the password Orlando used, that might be a bug. There's nothing in the script on my end that checks for that word in particular.
Then as far as traumatic events go, morphic resonance works on trauma, by extension so does the vault. But we know after talking to Thanatos on day 17 that he's unaware if he's "died" at all too. The reason being you can't be traumatized by something if it kills you. This is the main reason you can't see your own death in the vault given a lot of it can be described as inherited memory from a past version of yourself. Dave is traumatized when he seems Benson dead. Orlando is traumatized when he finds Dave dead. Dave can't be traumatized by his own death, or rather pass on the memory of the trauma given he doesn't live through it to remember it.
Looking at David's example, he saw Dave die and it's presumed that in a previous loop to this one he survived the shootout whereas Dave didn't. The 'event' ended with David alive and traumatized and Dave was dead, fulfilling the requirements for a vault vision in the next iteration of the universe
For us to get a vault vision specifically of Dave's death, we'd need to be seeing things from (or more accurately in the perspective of) a different character.
Bruh imagine the extra layers of story we would get if we got different perspectives playable 🥴
is there any kind of guide?? my literal first play through i chose to go all tyson and i keep ending with the bad one, it keeps taking me back to the morning but it always comes back to the bad ending :( some sort of guide would be amazing!!!!
you need to input the right password at the vault. that's the main mechanic of this novel. pay attention to the words that get used.
omg i didnt see it before, because i was so sad and a little mad about the whole situation that i skipped pass the password and that only made it more frustrating, so thank you for the tip!!! much appreciated :DDD!!!!!!!!!!!
I discovered this visual novel while searching games on itch.io, and i got to say that this game HITS hard. Right now its kinda hard for me to be happy and cheerful ; and when I l played this game it felt real. The characters feel so real, their expressions, their reactions, everything seems real and i love that. This experience made me reflect and think a lot of things in my life: what i'm searching for, the people around me, and more things. I got attached with some characters, i have a folder with a lot of pictures of moments in the game that made me laugh, or made me sad ; and its very nice to see them again. Thank you so much for bringing this great experience to us, it really helped me a lot ; i am very grateful. Great job :)
I feel like this is on purpose, but is my name locked as Dave? setting a name on the cup of coffee didn't change it in game.
You used to be able to name dave but since he has so much personality and established backstory it was decided he would be his own character so he's just dave.
The cup name actually gives you +1 affection with who you put in it and you get some unique text of daves reaction. Just putting dave gets +1 with all.
So, if I wanted to get a +1 affection with Sal (for example), I can just write his name on the coffee cup ?
But writing "Dave" gets me a +1 affections with all the characters ? If so, what's the difference in both situations ?
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding things correctly, English is not my first language.
That right, the difference is Daves reaction to seeing the name. It does help getting the affection actions like kissing Hoss or Dean and getting a hug from Sal.
Seeing Daves reaction to getting a cup with Tyson's name on it from Roswell just makes me laugh.
This.
They're bonus points, so if you get them it will make the game a little bit easier.
Does it actually do anything specific? I've never tried it because it just seemed like an easter egg, but I'd be willing to go to do it if anything changes beside that line of dialogue. I'm not expecting like an entire CG or whatever by doing it, but I like exploring this game :)
Yes, it's on purpose lol
The coffee cup serves a couple different purposes but setting your name is not one of them.
Huh, that's something new I learned. 🤔🤔
Can someone reminde me which day is the NSFW scene in Dean's route?
7 and 9 i think
Guys, please help me with the password on day 17!
Im struggling
Pay more attention to Orlando, specifically.
Day 17 password is awkward because of what it is any hints are too specific. I suppose i can say it's said by orlando. Other than that i'm not sure if we need day 17s password (try going through tysons route without the password and then anyother character and you'll see what i mean)
hey there. i know the password already so i can help a bit. just as Grizz and Cerberus said: pay close to what Orlando is saying. what did he say that connects him and Tyson. it could be almost anything sure, but there is something there that might be sooo obvious that you would be like "oh my gosh i wish i seen that sooner. I can give you a password that is like a hint but Thanatos wont give it away, hopefully Grizz doesn't think of this as cheating as long as i don't give away the actual password. until i'm given approval that i'm allowed to say the actual password (not the one that gives it away) think of the sentence "He was just as irritable when I went to go talk to him." there is a password that wont give away anything but you wont access anything either except Thanatos saying you're close. make sure to read.
I really hope this helps
Oh I already passed it but thx for the explanation though, I'm sure alot of people would appreciate it
SPOILERS AHEAD
What are all the characters full names?
I mean of Dave, Dave's friends, Oswin and Benson
the ones i know are
David "Dave" Halloway Junior
Orlando Noble
Oswin Hammond
and guessing from path D, Theodore Benson?
please correct if i mispelled their names
I don't think their names are a spoiler exactly but I guess just in case, spoiler warning.
For the other friends; Tyson Grey, Roswell Sinclair, Dean Orson, Sal Warden, and Hoss Warner.
I think that's right. I don't play his route that often so I might be wrong on Dean. But most of their names just get dropped on day 12 by Benson.
thanks
I have something to say; PASSWORD merch!!!!😍😍😍
Don't worry, it's coming. Just waiting on the test prints to arrive in the mail and I'll make a post about it once we're in production phase.
😍
Dave is having depression, someone please help him
that'sliterallythegame
Started Passwords about a week ago and I love it! Went through pretty much most (?) of the routes and figured out most (if not all) of the passwords. But that week ago, I thought I saw that the status of this game said Released (i.e. Completed). I probably just overlooked it but I was sad when I realized I hit the end of several demos scenes.
You're in the mansion for an entire month so if the current build ends before day 30/31 it's not done yet.
Ah, that might've been the Devlog perhaps? That update itself is "Released" but the game is far from finished. When I search it publicly it still says as "In Development" in the game search so apologies for any confusion.
That makes sense! And no worries. I love how far this visual novel has come. Best of luck to the future updates!
SPOILER/THEORY AHEAD
what if the mastermind is Dave?
like the Dave from the a previous timeline
that would explain a few things
if we asume that Thanatos is reciving its orders from someone in a previus timeline then that means that the mastermind in this timeline might be just as clueless as everyone else
this also would explain what happen to Sal in day 10, whoever was giving orders to Sal would need to have a lot of imformation that couldn't be obtain on the spot, they need to know that Sal is vulnerable to hypnosis and that he could be leaded to kill someone, if the mastermind is from a previous timeline they could know all of that and order Thanatos to give commands to Sal
Florencia said that Dave could also a mastermind as his choices determined much of what happened, this could be foreshadowing
i know is kinda crazy but i still wanted to put this theory out there
Doesn't Thanatos get angry at Dave if you miss day 10's password saying he "killed my master"? By that shouldn't it be Rosswell or Dean?
oh right, i forgot
although i think that only happen in path D
also isn't Thanatos a robot incapable of empathy, why would he be angry at someone for causing his master's death, unless his master dying gets in the way of him getting what he wants
I hope next update we get a sal's route update
You will, don't worry.
Possible Spoilers:
Plot twist- David is not really dead and he'll secretly show up sometime in the future. 😂😂🙂🙂
Also this is probably not true. I just like thinking about twists.
The question is...
which David?👀
Ahm... Grizz, i updated game but for some reason it crashes on startup
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 208, in script call
call _gl_test
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 387, in script
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 208, in script call
call _gl_test
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 387, in script
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 387, in <module>
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 317, in _m1_00gltest__gl_test
_gl_performance_test()
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 342, in _gl_performance_test
ui.interact(suppress_underlay=True, suppress_overlay=True)
Exception: Shader (u'renpy.geometry', 'renpy.solid') has not been given mesh attribute aPosition.
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 326, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "renpy/main.py", line 617, in main
run(restart)
File "renpy/main.py", line 148, in run
renpy.execution.run_context(True)
File "renpy/execution.py", line 922, in run_context
context.run()
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 208, in script call
call _gl_test
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 387, in script
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 208, in script call
call _gl_test
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 387, in script
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/ast.py", line 922, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2218, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 387, in <module>
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 317, in _m1_00gltest__gl_test
_gl_performance_test()
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 342, in _gl_performance_test
ui.interact(suppress_underlay=True, suppress_overlay=True)
File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3213, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3729, in interact_core
self.draw_screen(root_widget, fullscreen_video, (not fullscreen_video) or video_frame_drawn)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2470, in draw_screen
renpy.display.draw.draw_screen(surftree)
File "gl2draw.pyx", line 822, in renpy.gl2.gl2draw.GL2Draw.draw_screen
File "gl2draw.pyx", line 1327, in renpy.gl2.gl2draw.GL2DrawingContext.draw
File "gl2draw.pyx", line 1308, in renpy.gl2.gl2draw.GL2DrawingContext.draw_one
File "gl2draw.pyx", line 1308, in renpy.gl2.gl2draw.GL2DrawingContext.draw_one
File "gl2draw.pyx", line 1308, in renpy.gl2.gl2draw.GL2DrawingContext.draw_one
File "gl2draw.pyx", line 1308, in renpy.gl2.gl2draw.GL2DrawingContext.draw_one
File "gl2draw.pyx", line 1308, in renpy.gl2.gl2draw.GL2DrawingContext.draw_one
File "gl2draw.pyx", line 1308, in renpy.gl2.gl2draw.GL2DrawingContext.draw_one
File "gl2draw.pyx", line 1233, in renpy.gl2.gl2draw.GL2DrawingContext.draw_one
File "gl2draw.pyx", line 1200, in renpy.gl2.gl2draw.GL2DrawingContext.draw_model
File "gl2shader.pyx", line 291, in renpy.gl2.gl2shader.Program.draw
File "gl2shader.pyx", line 250, in renpy.gl2.gl2shader.Program.missing
Exception: Shader (u'renpy.geometry', 'renpy.solid') has not been given mesh attribute aPosition.
Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.5.1648
PASSWORD a0.35.1
Wed Sep 22 14:02:15 2021
So I can look into it properly:
1. PC Build?
2. Are you running it outside of the zipped file or are you running it directly from the zipped file?
3. Have you run into this issue with any other furry VNs?
Reason I ask is because most of that looks like back-end Renpy SDK stuff as opposed to something Password specific, but I'll look into it.
Yes, PC Build.
I unzipped it in previous build.
No, never had same problem.
Is still cant get, tha heck i have to ask from Oswin, that moment blows my mind, i tried everything and still got nothing, someone have any clues?
Nothing story critical. Just some small things that fill out lore and easter eggs.