Anyone know how to read day 21/bad timeline? IDK how to get it and none of the saves I have so far will let me progress to day 21. Likely will have to start a new game.... So does anyone know what choice I have to make?
Are you doing Tyson's route by chance? You can't get to the new bad timeline with him if so, you'll stop at day 20 A/B with this update.
If you're on someone else's and can't reach day 21 path F/G, outside of redownloading the update or trying a new save file I don't know. Not inputting the password on day 17 should always lead to it.
It's always hosted on Dropbox as a default. It's because it's Easter that I kept getting called away from updating it on itch as it needs to be done manually. With Patreon I can schedule things ahead of time to launch while I can enjoy a sleep in.
Thanks a lot!! (I figured out just right now how to see replies on own comments in an easier way, I've tried digging in the comments after I came back but couldn't find it, thanks again! )
I finished reading Foreign Affairs last night, after finding it linked in the comments here a few weeks ago. I have to admit I found the whole thing rather cute and funny. The language barrier between some of them and the confusion that came as a result, or, more specifically, the silliness, had me cracking up tonight. I really needed the laugh because I spe4nt several hours in the dark due to a rainstorm knocking out the power for close to five hours.
I know you've had people give mixed feelings on it, but I loved it!
Quick question: are there actually passwords to find for the vault visits on days 1-6 before stuff starts going down, or are these visits there just as a for fun/exploration kinda thing ?
Or are we wasting our time trying to find a password at this stage ?
The last April Fool's stuff I did was make Foreign Affairs which people assumed was real. Given the amount of Patrons I lost to that and hate-mail I got from fans of Tennis Ace for the audacity for attempting to steal Basket away made it very not worth it in the end.
Basket and I had fun with it, and he was great to work with, but the fan response to it on both sides left a bad taste in my mouth. I had to go back in and put in bold that it was an April Fool's joke just for posterity but even then, the damage had been done.
That's too bad people reacted negatively to it. I honestly would be intrigued if that actually happened. But to go so far as to send hate mail? I don't know if they were worth keeping then. 🙂🙂🙂
I imagine someone will end up making a fan guide, but given it's a central gameplay mechanic and story tool, I'd only ever be considering it once the story is done.
Ok so im new-ish but i have a couple of questions.
POTENTIAL SPOILERS
Are there more pass words then wat we know of like the ones on Hoss sheet, there are bad memories tha I've missed 3 in total I've tried all I can but non seem to be working, also are the 2 CG of Dean's not supposed to be in the gallery? The no no and the one were they first share the bed?(morning wood)
BTW great VN it really gets you on the eage of your seat😆 sry if there's a bit of questions
Wow tha kinda sucks😅 i love the whole romance/murder mystery vibe, and to be honest i dont like the change, its fine tho I'll still read😊 i love the story anyways but it'll just feel weird ig thx for the info
Sorry I got distracted by something. Anyway don't read if you do not wish to possibly ruin the game for yourself.
So after reviewing all the bad endings and up to date content, I believe that "Roswell" is the one behind the events, at least at one point in time. I went back to study all the deaths and out of all of them so far, Dean is the only one who suffers. He gets poisoned, Sal is frozen, Roswell is hit from behind, (possibly could've suffered) Hoss is stabbed in the chest, Orlando was injected, (?) Tyson could've suffered as well but we don't know if he died right away or not. Who could possibly have a grudge against Dean? Well, I don't want to spoil too much so I'll say; read through the game and try to put it together.😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃
Interesting, I also feel that rosswell is the culprit... With the purpose of making everyone feel the same way that he is dying or maybe suffering(?)
But I feel that the mastermind behind this incident is Dave's mother. Indeed, there is no solid evidence yet, but I have a feeling that she is the culprit
If Florencia is the master of the Vault then I think it is her and/or Benson. Regardless...i think it is whoever the master is.
I think this entire trip was to test Morphic Resonance and the vault. Benson is loyal to the Hammond family and while most of the time is 100% loyal to Oswin, we just learned very valuable information that the ladder he follows is determined by a heirarchy, to which Oswin is not first.
We know that from the Oswin/Benson deaths, both of them were likely betrayed by the same person, and it keeps hinting that it is someone in Os' family (or at the very least he knows personally).
We also know that Thanatos only follows the commands of whoever the master of the vault is. Thanatos does not care who dies in the process.
All of these theories are so intriguing, I just can't take it!! 😩😩
Spoilers:
Edit: this contains spoilers for the next update.
I think the next update (Patreon) is going to be Day 21 of the "good" path, and we know from the last update that someone will show up on the "bad" route. But the question is: who is the traitor? They have to be in league with Memphis or maybe not, Roswell is my prime suspect but the theories being shared opened my mind to new possibilities. 😃😃😃😃
When dave asks thanatos to knock him out at the vault it also causes roswell to collapse. Thanatos's noise only works on thoes programed into the vault. On Sals route dave collapses after getting a password and Sal is completely unaffected.
Dave and Orlando are affected because of their fathers in the vault, but Roswell shouldn't be in unless he's a hammond. I think Florencia is Roswells mother.
In one of the bad path Florencia says she's only trying to save one person and will roll the dice repeating the experiment as many times as it takes.
Thanatos's master is also only intrested in saving one person. Dave is the only person who hasn't died in the vault yet (except from orlando's vission but that still hasn't happened yet) and instead it is everyone around dave targeted starting with whoever he is closest to.
If Florencia is Roswells mother you would think she would be trying to save him with what is in the vault, but she's the only one with the vaults password and she clearly never gave it to him. She could also just go and get the cure from the vault but purposely doesn't. So she must be trying to save Oz since he's given up living since the experiment gone wrong (which Sal was the only survivor).
Roswell is the only friend who thinks he needs to save Dave from himself, he also has knowledge about the house and its secret passages which he shouldn't know.
I wanted to ask. Ive recently played the new update, but I haven't got any of the new title screens yet. Is there a problem? Are the new title screens PC only?
I dont believe the new title screens are actually on in this build as when i was going through it last month i never got any. However they are in the next build, its not a big deal just a nice little thing.
so, i just finished exploring the new paths F and G, and am very confused as to what are dreams or memories or both. i suppose there is no way around it other than waiting for new updates, but i would like to know if the memories are always something that would happen at a later point, or something that could have happened earlier but didn't?
What would make it easier to figure that out? I feel like I might need to drop another line in there somewhere about the universal timeline being a constant loop of similar events but I could've sworn Roswell said something to that effect in the last few days of current content.
the confusion is mostly on how come certain events would have been possible to happen. i have to assume the variables branch off earlier than the story begins, but there is one in particular i can't figure out how it would have been possible because of a specific character showing a side that doesn't match what i know about them. maybe once we learn what is the purpose of the experiment but that's something for the end of the month most likely.
No...? The files weren't even written when I packaged those up. So what you played was absolutely the Patron build. Unless something real screwy is going on.
EDIT: Confirmed it on my end, the version uploaded does not have Day 21 on it, so where did you get your copy?
All good! You aren't the first and likely won't be the last.
But stuff vanishing from the gallery is really weird. There's not been a report of that before so I wonder if your persistent data is getting wiped at some point. Is it just the gallery and CGs, or is it also messing with the music room?
yeah it has sometimes, im trying to listen to one thing the next second it glitches and i have to replay the song again, its a bit frustrating cause its been happening for some time now (since the day 19 update)
I have a question. With all of the routes by day 19 besides Sal, prior to the current update, the character whose route you're on kisses you at least once after you become a couple. Yet, despite the fact I've gotten the two of them together on his route ( which was done really well btw) there's no scene showing them kissing like there is with the others. There's a part when Dave isn't sure of he should hug Sal or not, but neither option went any farther than that, so in curious if I did something wrong somewhere.
The reason I asked is because I'm missing one of the images in the memories gallery. Specifically, the one that, if the were to scroll all the way down so the screen shows the last 14 images for that gallery, shows in the first position. Based on the way the images were lined up by character, I thought it might have been the image of them kissing.
Due to its placement, I'm guessing that's either an image for Tyson's route or (what I thought) for Sal's. Just so I don't end up having to replay BOTH routes to find it, can you give me a hint as to where to go to seek that last image?
I'm also missing a few images in the trauma gallery, but the reason for that Is because the only one I've played through all four paths for is Tyson. I couldn't make myself sit through the trauma scenes of the other characters again. (I lost my gallery progress late last year after trying to move my saves so i could uninstall an old version and install a new one, but i had forgotten a step and it wiped everything out).
I want to apologize for judging this by its cover. I did Ty's route path C then to A and I am impressed by everything, including what I initially judged. Ten outta ten, will recommend.
Edit: however Shadow of Doubt and Shades of Uncertainty always trick me into thinking something is wrong with my pc whenever they play.
Glad to hear! Although is there something actively glitching about the music or is it just something with the mixing that's taking you out of the experience?
I don’t know anything about music so I can’t describe it in a way that makes sense. It just sounds like something is hitting my fan blade a couple times a second in exactly the same spot. It’s a fast “onetwothreefour” non stop.
In a linear sense you would be about right but regarding workload it would probably be around 80-85% since the romance routes had a lot of varying content but now its just a/b and f/g
I've only played through four of the routes so far, but I'm really liking where we've gotten so far. The majority of the questions I've had have been at least touched on or answered. Thanatos being the ultimate gatekeeper is something that I actually really like because he lets the characters and myself actually think about what they ask and find out.
Spoilers?
I kinda have two concerns though...my first is with Roswell and the news being out now...I remember that you had wrote about your plans about the sequel to this game, and you mentioned that Roswell would still be around for that...I know that time will tell in this situation, but I kinda wish that would've been left unsaid because when he made the announcement, it just kinda fell flat for me like a "oh that was in the trailer" moment. I feel like all it did was delay the romance focus, but with this update apparently being the end of that, I'm kinda disappointed that this is how it happened because nothing romantic even happened...just Roswell spreading the news to give the group yet another thig to think about while Dave still has his own set of issues going on still, romantic and other things. Another thing (that I did see being discussed in the comments) was the abrupt end to the day and thus the romance focus. I know a huge part of why I like this game is that it isn't the typical dating game that kinda forces you with a character to spend time with and only them and all that jazz, but I feel like with how much emphasis is being put on Dave's feelings and his relationship discoveries, it just felt kinda unfinished to end it here. Dave and his partner (from the routes I've read so far) kinda basically say that they're not exactly done figuring everything out anyway, so wouldn't that open up more discussion/focus on it? I know that there is mention of sex in a few of the endings, but even then, there's a disappointing lack of emotion the end. I know I'm biased towards Sal cause it's Sal, but his felt like the best one because of his character: being the voice of reason at all times, I expected a wait on further discussion of their current situation since he's all about making sure Dave does things at the right time, so the wait was welcome...but it'd be very disappointing if this day would be the last of digging deeper into those feelings of theirs. I know this day was heavy on the investigative stuff, which is always good, but I feel like marking a day where there was little focus on the romantic aspect as the end is kinda underwhelming. I know this might sound like I'm pushing for sex, but I just want something really wholesome to happen or them to have a nice, long moment with each other to focus on strengthening their bond (that isn't sex...which doesn't always turn out well as seen with Dean) together that doesn't have to end with some depressing, doom and gloom discussion.
I'll keep this brief because that's a lot of text to go through but:
- Romance arcs are over, but Dave having a relationship isn't just going to be a side thought as we go into the final act. There'll still be couples moments in there, but it's going to be hard to realistically have deep and meaningful discussions about a relationship when they're under siege by a homicidal rabbit.
- I'm gonna rework the endings of those days given people felt they were flat. I agree too, they were flat and you guys deserved better, but not all of those relationships can be straight into gushing about having feelings because... that's not how relationships work. But I'll amend something better in there at least.
Hi Grizz. I'm a Tyson Hoss and Dean fan and I just wanted to let you know I personally really love the way their romance routes played out! Tyson's special moments with dave had me teary eyed for like months. Their ''bro'' relationship was so intense I loved getting to be part of it, Hoss's moments were funny and laid back as fitting for him, and Dean's were classy and romantic which were fitting for him, so I had a really good time seeing it all. I've made up pretend stories privately before, and man it can be crazy balancing emotional character relationships with super complicated mystery stuff.... I feel like Password is super long and huge and has so much more emotional depth to it than I could possibly expect outta just one single story made by one guy, and I want you to know I think it's awesome and it cheers me up just getting a new update each month! I don't know if compliments like this mean a whole lot to you or not, but I just felt like I had some positive stuff to say so I wanted to to say it! Thanks for making such cool characters!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, and hopefully you continue to enjoy! Compliments are always nice, too! Password isn't finished though, and I know there are some parts that really need a good polishing, but you're very welcome all the same!
I was not a fan of the lackluster act 2 resolutions of the romance plotlines, they were severely underwhelming and were more of a distraction from the murder mystery. I wouldn't have missed anything if they weren't there. And after reading the Patreon post on upcoming changes for Steam and Nintendo platforms... I am disappointed and feel it is time to quit this VN. Best of luck. :/
I'm sorry you feel that way, but the romance angle wasn't ever really meant to be the main focus. Admittedly I botched that delivery so I do apologize.
Though for my own benefit, what exactly was lackluster about it? Just the lack of sex scenes or? Naturally any chance I can get to be a better writer I'll take, so hit me with that feedback.
I can see how it was lackluster. Even with it not being the main focus the way the characters are fleshed out you can't help but get attached. You spend time with them learning their history, hopes and dreams. Then it just ends with a black screen and a line of 'i spent the night with my *incert species here*, and thats it.
All the character building, getting so close to them and it just culminated to the equivalent of just skipping to the next day.
I'm open to reworking those scenes, but with the restriction that I can't have explicit sexual content in-game (for a number of reasons), what would a suitable alternative be?
For me personally i just found them 'meh' but since you mentioned doing additions like the daveXtyson where appropriate as extras i'm not all that bothered with it.
However there are ways to do it without blatantly going ''then they knot fucked''. Maybe rather than thinking about wording it erotic go in a different direction. After all its just looking to be more impactful and satisfying.
I’m no author so I’m probably going to be terrible but I shall try to do an example (I will probably do terrible crimes of cringe).
'My heart was beating like a war drum as we went back to my room. A thousand thoughts running through my mind. When we arrived it was like the birth of a galaxy. Everything was new. Things that were so simple suddenly had new meaning and more gravitas. A touch of the hands, his fingers entwined with mine. His sent that had become so familiar filled me with comfort. His arms wrapping around me made me feel safe from the horrors of the world. And there in that embrace I fell into the sweetest slumber. As if ascending to paradise our souls intertwined our hearts beating as one.'
Yes Dave would never say or think like that, like I said I’m not an author and I’m not part of any fanfic stuff either. This is more an example of just fluffing thing up to sound more impactful. It can be summed up as ‘’we went back to my room and I fell asleep in his arms’’. However it sound a lot more grandiose when you frame it differently. What I tried to do was frame it with spirituality.
If it's a framing issue I can 100% fix that. Would it be a fade to black, just added prose in-between lines that currently exist? What would you say is appropriate for a route like Sal's or even Hoss's where they're still just figuring things out? It's easy when there's deep-seated emotions already there, but I'm stuck on the others that don't.
To the people that need explicit sex scenes to have a good finale, I don't know if there is a compromise to ever be had. The fade to black parts were already that nice middle ground I thought. Heck even that was more than I expected since all I had hoped for from Tysons route was that "I love you" moment with Dave and maybe an awkward kiss. Both of which were delivered on (and then some).
I guess if I had to add anything, since I'm overall satisfied with what we do have, maybe just more dialogue or descriptions in some places would be nice. Orlando and Hoss could both do with a bit more because as it is both of their scenes kind of just happen and it's suddenly over whereas Dean and Tyson have that little bit extra. This sort of applies to each route overall as well, not just day 19, that more dialogue could be added to flesh out everyone's relationship with Dave just that little bit more.
As an example, my favorite part in that pdf was probably Tyson licking Dave affectionately at the end. It was cute and overall a minor thing, but even something that minor stuck with me.
That story actually had a lot I wish was in the game itself. And I don't mean the sexual more explicit parts, I think it's that we get to see them interact for a bit longer and it just felt more natural. Like, it really felt like they loved each other then and it was... well, nice.
So to summarize, it's primarily a pacing issue? We can fluff up the scene a little bit with extraneous detail easily enough, I just assumed people wouldn't want something dragged out when it wasn't going to lead to something explicit. Although the more tender things we should be fine to work in (such as the licking from Tyson).
I'm a little stuck however when it comes to the amount of what's reasonable for certain characters wildly outweigh others: - Orlando/Tyson/Dean have long-standing affection for Dave in varying degrees so to this end Orlando got the short end of the stick and should be fixed accordingly. (Granted he's a lot messier in the sack than the other two) - Roswell/Sal/Hoss all fit under the 'still figuring it out' umbrella with varying levels of sexual drive. So there being this same level of romantic tenderness doesn't really seem appropriate.
And that's kind of where adding dialogue in random places doesn't really work either as a quick fix. On one hand we have to balance the mystery, which is supposed to be the main focus, but also not overshadow it which to my own failing I've botched. Still, for someone like Sal to start opening up during the vacation and Dave becoming closer to him as a friend doesn't leave much in the character arc to start reminiscing freely about backstory when we're also in the shoes of a depressed hyena.
I'll see if I can think of a solution but it's not going to be a simple fix I think.
If you mean the ones that have letters, A through to E so far can be accessed, although not all are finished. If you meant something else, I don't know what you're asking, sorry.
Ok so, when I saw the message I got super curious, I searched for an old version everywhere, dug through every single post and message and FINALLY found an old version of the game. And what it unlocked was literally just an "They all died lmao" ending, not really something too interesting and I understand why it was removed.
Originally it was me testing to see how Renpy handled jumping through the script as a preliminary test to how I wanted to handle the vault system. So in part of that I riff'd 999 and as said above, a "lol all ded" ending.
Maybe this is a spoiler. So, you've been warned...
Okay, I've finished Tyson's route and replay it until i have to put a password on day eleventh path A. I'm confused, why didn't I get that part before? I mean, I always remember every password that I had input... u'know, i write it on a note
Has the 0.39 version been uploaded here？Using patreon is quite a pain for me, so I always buy the game from itch. But now it's been TWO DAYS, and it keeps telling me "0.38 uploaded 32 days ago." T_T
There is no public update this month given I was moving over the holiday period. Patrons didn't get one last month, so what they got this month will roll down to public next month.
So the whole true ending thing in the patreon post has me wondering a bit. Namely if it'll be in it's own separate timeline or will every route inevitably lead to it.
I guess I'm just curious if we'll get character endings where Dave gets that happy ending with the route partner now. Or if it will even matter if 5/6 always have the lingering smell of "it doesn't work out" hanging over them.
And I get the game has never been a dating sim with the mystery being the true focus. Just... idk, it'll be sad if the romance parts are meaningless to care about outside one route.
I think the whole timeline thing is literally just referencing save files…because to Dave, not knowing how he remembers passwords but still getting them is just us, the player being Dave in different saves files with knowledge from a different one.
Also we’ll just hafta see, but Dave being in a relationship or not isn’t exactly mandatory when it comes to getting of the mountain in the end…routes in this game (and pretty much everywhere) are kinda there for perspective building, but there’s always an overall story to tell :)
Probably safe to say Roswell and Sal aren't cannon boyfriends judging from what grizz said about the sequel. If they where then dave would probably guaranteed to pop up but with even a dave cameo being a maybe i think probably not.
I'm making an active effort to leave the hyena with his happy end come the end of Password, regardless of who the intended boyfriend is. So if it is Sal or Roswell, know the story I want to tell with the sequel is a lot less focused on romantic relationships and dealing with the fact the police are kinda garbage in-universe currently.
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Anyone know how to read day 21/bad timeline? IDK how to get it and none of the saves I have so far will let me progress to day 21. Likely will have to start a new game.... So does anyone know what choice I have to make?
In short, fail to input Day 17's Password right.
But... That's what I did. I got end of demo...
Are you doing Tyson's route by chance? You can't get to the new bad timeline with him if so, you'll stop at day 20 A/B with this update.
If you're on someone else's and can't reach day 21 path F/G, outside of redownloading the update or trying a new save file I don't know. Not inputting the password on day 17 should always lead to it.
How to get to path F/G tho? Can you tell me?
By not using the password on day 17 and being on anyone but Tyson's route.
Public build for this month:- https://www.patreon.com/posts/public-demo-a0-65144627
Guessing it's because the last public build on here for some people gave the patreon build so its in dropbox this time
It's always hosted on Dropbox as a default. It's because it's Easter that I kept getting called away from updating it on itch as it needs to be done manually. With Patreon I can schedule things ahead of time to launch while I can enjoy a sleep in.
Would anyone be so kind to explain to me what are paths and how it works again?? Especially if there are any plot-variances between routes?
paths: https://www.patreon.com/posts/on-topic-of-42690779
Paths go up to F for now. Paths usually differ by who is alive or not so there is quite a big difference between them and the good timeline.
There's an F now? I've gotten E before, but I didn't know there was more...could you give me a clue or something on how to get F?
dont put a password for day 17 on any route but tysons (since his skip it)
Thanks a lot!! (I figured out just right now how to see replies on own comments in an easier way, I've tried digging in the comments after I came back but couldn't find it, thanks again! )
I'm following this. I could use more LGBT horror/mystery VNs. And I like Sal already~
The fact that it has gay characters in it is one of the elements that draw me in. 🙂🙂🙂
I finished reading Foreign Affairs last night, after finding it linked in the comments here a few weeks ago. I have to admit I found the whole thing rather cute and funny. The language barrier between some of them and the confusion that came as a result, or, more specifically, the silliness, had me cracking up tonight. I really needed the laugh because I spe4nt several hours in the dark due to a rainstorm knocking out the power for close to five hours.
I know you've had people give mixed feelings on it, but I loved it!
Is it good? I want to see it but my device has issues with Dropbox. 😥😥😥
I thought so. I found it kept me amused almost the whole way through. Some parts of it were... interesting too.
Quick question: are there actually passwords to find for the vault visits on days 1-6 before stuff starts going down, or are these visits there just as a for fun/exploration kinda thing ?
Or are we wasting our time trying to find a password at this stage ?
A little of both. Some are route dependent, some are for Patrons and some are just for internal testing.
thanks for clarifying that, i had a headache because of that xD ( amazing all your work, i love Dean and Tyson)
I feel stupid, what Kind of hints im a suppose paying attention to for the password.
Look for any specific words that stand out in the bad endings, past when you've likely needed to use one.
OK that help so much thank you, i though i was going crazy or something
Is it possible to find the passwords before the bad endings?
Yes there's 2 you can get before the bad end right now (im pretty sure)
for the initial ones no, and that's good design to present you with the mechanic
No April Fools stuff Grizz? 🤔
The last April Fool's stuff I did was make Foreign Affairs which people assumed was real. Given the amount of Patrons I lost to that and hate-mail I got from fans of Tennis Ace for the audacity for attempting to steal Basket away made it very not worth it in the end.
Basket and I had fun with it, and he was great to work with, but the fan response to it on both sides left a bad taste in my mouth. I had to go back in and put in bold that it was an April Fool's joke just for posterity but even then, the damage had been done.
That's too bad people reacted negatively to it. I honestly would be intrigued if that actually happened. But to go so far as to send hate mail? I don't know if they were worth keeping then. 🙂🙂🙂
Quick question,will there ever be a sheet or something with all the passwords for people who dont care about the whole "find out the password" thing
I imagine someone will end up making a fan guide, but given it's a central gameplay mechanic and story tool, I'd only ever be considering it once the story is done.
mhh ok thx for aswering
Out of curiosity, I remember one of the patreon perks being access to such a list. Am I misremembering?
Ok so im new-ish but i have a couple of questions.
POTENTIAL SPOILERS
Are there more pass words then wat we know of like the ones on Hoss sheet, there are bad memories tha I've missed 3 in total I've tried all I can but non seem to be working, also are the 2 CG of Dean's not supposed to be in the gallery? The no no and the one were they first share the bed?(morning wood)
BTW great VN it really gets you on the eage of your seat😆 sry if there's a bit of questions
The 2 dean ones will be removed in the future. The ones you're missing are probably from the other paths, explained here:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/on-topic-of-42690779
There is also path F now with tyson day 19 but no CG that is only on that path for now.
Other than that if you're new theres some other things that you can check out.
Foreign affairs: - tennis ace/password crossover
https://www.patreon.com/posts/foreign-affairs-35497802
And DaveXTyson smut
https://www.patreon.com/posts/some-exciting-58689094
If you dont mind me asking why are the 2 Dean ones being removed?
here:https://www.patreon.com/posts/password-in-2022-62493391
but in short Grizz is hoping to release on switch and steam and switch doesn't do smut
Wow tha kinda sucks😅 i love the whole romance/murder mystery vibe, and to be honest i dont like the change, its fine tho I'll still read😊 i love the story anyways but it'll just feel weird ig thx for the info
Same here, I mean, I love the whole romance an mystery vibes... It's different from others (In the good way)
Are you stuck on a Day, or do you keep having bad endings?
All of the bad endings so far can be avoided by inputting the correct password and making the choice to not reveal oz.
All of the CGs in the gallery are obtainable right now.
Possible spoilers?:
Oh my gosh I think I know who the one behind it is.
Sorry I got distracted by something. Anyway don't read if you do not wish to possibly ruin the game for yourself.
So after reviewing all the bad endings and up to date content, I believe that "Roswell" is the one behind the events, at least at one point in time. I went back to study all the deaths and out of all of them so far, Dean is the only one who suffers. He gets poisoned, Sal is frozen, Roswell is hit from behind, (possibly could've suffered) Hoss is stabbed in the chest, Orlando was injected, (?) Tyson could've suffered as well but we don't know if he died right away or not. Who could possibly have a grudge against Dean? Well, I don't want to spoil too much so I'll say; read through the game and try to put it together.😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃
Edit: Let me know what you guys think. 🤗🤗
Interesting, I also feel that rosswell is the culprit... With the purpose of making everyone feel the same way that he is dying or maybe suffering(?)
But I feel that the mastermind behind this incident is Dave's mother. Indeed, there is no solid evidence yet, but I have a feeling that she is the culprit
Hmm interesting. Would you care to explain why you think its her? 🤔🤔
I really don't want to tell you, because it might be a spoiler....😅😅 But here it is...
I'm guessing she's the culprit because she had visit the mansion and maybe it wasn't David himself who dropped his license…. but she was(?)
I also think that the thing that killed Orlando can only be owned by someone with a medical background (so far only Oswin and Dave's mother)
But I haven't found out, what reason she used to do all these things
That's a valid point, very interesting if you think about it.
If Florencia is the master of the Vault then I think it is her and/or Benson. Regardless...i think it is whoever the master is.
I think this entire trip was to test Morphic Resonance and the vault. Benson is loyal to the Hammond family and while most of the time is 100% loyal to Oswin, we just learned very valuable information that the ladder he follows is determined by a heirarchy, to which Oswin is not first.
We know that from the Oswin/Benson deaths, both of them were likely betrayed by the same person, and it keeps hinting that it is someone in Os' family (or at the very least he knows personally).
We also know that Thanatos only follows the commands of whoever the master of the vault is. Thanatos does not care who dies in the process.
All of these theories are so intriguing, I just can't take it!! 😩😩
Spoilers:
Edit: this contains spoilers for the next update.
I think the next update (Patreon) is going to be Day 21 of the "good" path, and we know from the last update that someone will show up on the "bad" route. But the question is: who is the traitor? They have to be in league with Memphis or maybe not, Roswell is my prime suspect but the theories being shared opened my mind to new possibilities. 😃😃😃😃
just musings
When dave asks thanatos to knock him out at the vault it also causes roswell to collapse. Thanatos's noise only works on thoes programed into the vault. On Sals route dave collapses after getting a password and Sal is completely unaffected.
Dave and Orlando are affected because of their fathers in the vault, but Roswell shouldn't be in unless he's a hammond. I think Florencia is Roswells mother.
In one of the bad path Florencia says she's only trying to save one person and will roll the dice repeating the experiment as many times as it takes.
Thanatos's master is also only intrested in saving one person. Dave is the only person who hasn't died in the vault yet (except from orlando's vission but that still hasn't happened yet) and instead it is everyone around dave targeted starting with whoever he is closest to.
If Florencia is Roswells mother you would think she would be trying to save him with what is in the vault, but she's the only one with the vaults password and she clearly never gave it to him. She could also just go and get the cure from the vault but purposely doesn't. So she must be trying to save Oz since he's given up living since the experiment gone wrong (which Sal was the only survivor).
Roswell is the only friend who thinks he needs to save Dave from himself, he also has knowledge about the house and its secret passages which he shouldn't know.
I wanted to ask. Ive recently played the new update, but I haven't got any of the new title screens yet. Is there a problem? Are the new title screens PC only?
I dont believe the new title screens are actually on in this build as when i was going through it last month i never got any. However they are in the next build, its not a big deal just a nice little thing.
I understand. I was just a bit confused cuz I saw others having the new title screens and I just didn't get it. Thank you!
Day 20, Tyson route B
if relevant i transferred my saves from a pc
Got another small bug thing i think this line is attributed incorrectly (day 19 without day 17 password)
One year ago, I bought this game. Its amazing how time flies. 😃😃😃
I was able to "ignore" this to progress.
so, i just finished exploring the new paths F and G, and am very confused as to what are dreams or memories or both. i suppose there is no way around it other than waiting for new updates, but i would like to know if the memories are always something that would happen at a later point, or something that could have happened earlier but didn't?
What would make it easier to figure that out? I feel like I might need to drop another line in there somewhere about the universal timeline being a constant loop of similar events but I could've sworn Roswell said something to that effect in the last few days of current content.
the confusion is mostly on how come certain events would have been possible to happen. i have to assume the variables branch off earlier than the story begins, but there is one in particular i can't figure out how it would have been possible because of a specific character showing a side that doesn't match what i know about them. maybe once we learn what is the purpose of the experiment but that's something for the end of the month most likely.
If you're talking about one in the latest Patron build, I'd wait until next month.
i played the public build, was the path F and G day 21 not supposed to be on it?
No...? The files weren't even written when I packaged those up. So what you played was absolutely the Patron build. Unless something real screwy is going on.
EDIT: Confirmed it on my end, the version uploaded does not have Day 21 on it, so where did you get your copy?
Find a bad ending password? How do I look for it I read carefully but I can't find it
Most passwords are hidden in the bad endings. They are either repeated or have more attention drawn to it. The first is in the letter.
You mean, the password was hidden when the character we were dating nearly died?
The events after the death usually.
To keep you on your toes some passwords come before when you get to the vault!
After starting a new game, I was wondering what everyone's Zodiac signs are? 🤔🤔🤔
Given none have canonical birthdays, that's near impossible to figure out.
Oh ok.
maybe we can just assume whatever the first medal someone finds is to be their sign
Kenapa kau membuat Hoss mati!! Dia laki-laki saya aaahhh Please make him come back
Temukan kata sandi di akhir yang buruk untuk menyelamatkan orang
Try and avoid using passwords in your comments please, it ruins the experience for others only just discovering the game.
On Day 10, Sal will let you pass that scenario regardless of if you get the password correct or not.
As far as CGs vanishing, what are you referring to? As in from the gallery or?
yeah it constantly vanishes from the gallery (also i apologize for putting two passwords in, it wasn't my intention to ruin the experience for others)
All good! You aren't the first and likely won't be the last.
But stuff vanishing from the gallery is really weird. There's not been a report of that before so I wonder if your persistent data is getting wiped at some point. Is it just the gallery and CGs, or is it also messing with the music room?
yeah it has sometimes, im trying to listen to one thing the next second it glitches and i have to replay the song again, its a bit frustrating cause its been happening for some time now (since the day 19 update)
i have noticed this happening with the trauma section of the gallery when new cgs get added, but then it comes back once i completed the gallery again
I have a question. With all of the routes by day 19 besides Sal, prior to the current update, the character whose route you're on kisses you at least once after you become a couple. Yet, despite the fact I've gotten the two of them together on his route ( which was done really well btw) there's no scene showing them kissing like there is with the others. There's a part when Dave isn't sure of he should hug Sal or not, but neither option went any farther than that, so in curious if I did something wrong somewhere.
Nope, everything you did is right. Sal's just not the kissing type amidst juggling his emotions and loyalties to his best friend.
Ah! Okay.
QUESTION/POSSIBLE IMAGE SPOILER?
The reason I asked is because I'm missing one of the images in the memories gallery. Specifically, the one that, if the were to scroll all the way down so the screen shows the last 14 images for that gallery, shows in the first position. Based on the way the images were lined up by character, I thought it might have been the image of them kissing.
Due to its placement, I'm guessing that's either an image for Tyson's route or (what I thought) for Sal's. Just so I don't end up having to replay BOTH routes to find it, can you give me a hint as to where to go to seek that last image?
I'm also missing a few images in the trauma gallery, but the reason for that Is because the only one I've played through all four paths for is Tyson. I couldn't make myself sit through the trauma scenes of the other characters again. (I lost my gallery progress late last year after trying to move my saves so i could uninstall an old version and install a new one, but i had forgotten a step and it wiped everything out).
Ah, play Roswell's route to get that one. It features Tyson, but isn't on his route. You shouldn't need to play much of Roswell's to get it, either.
Is it somewhere before Day 20 for him? I just finished playing Roswell's Day and I didn't see it.
think its from the first bad end for roswell
I have a question
Are all the Zodiac medals obtainable in the diferents routes ?
And they are only in Path A or in the 4 paths
As of right now, not all of them have been discovered in the story, regardless of path.
I want to apologize for judging this by its cover. I did Ty's route path C then to A and I am impressed by everything, including what I initially judged. Ten outta ten, will recommend.
Edit: however Shadow of Doubt and Shades of Uncertainty always trick me into thinking something is wrong with my pc whenever they play.
Glad to hear! Although is there something actively glitching about the music or is it just something with the mixing that's taking you out of the experience?
I don’t know anything about music so I can’t describe it in a way that makes sense. It just sounds like something is hitting my fan blade a couple times a second in exactly the same spot. It’s a fast “onetwothreefour” non stop.
I'll pass this along to Civ and see if he can isolate it and then maybe we can think of something when the tracks get remastered.
77%
What are you referring to?
i often try to guess how far along completion some of the VNs i play are, that was my estimate assuming it will go until day 26
Ah, understood. Good luck in your guess!
In a linear sense you would be about right but regarding workload it would probably be around 80-85% since the romance routes had a lot of varying content but now its just a/b and f/g
I've only played through four of the routes so far, but I'm really liking where we've gotten so far. The majority of the questions I've had have been at least touched on or answered. Thanatos being the ultimate gatekeeper is something that I actually really like because he lets the characters and myself actually think about what they ask and find out.
Spoilers?
I kinda have two concerns though...my first is with Roswell and the news being out now...I remember that you had wrote about your plans about the sequel to this game, and you mentioned that Roswell would still be around for that...I know that time will tell in this situation, but I kinda wish that would've been left unsaid because when he made the announcement, it just kinda fell flat for me like a "oh that was in the trailer" moment. I feel like all it did was delay the romance focus, but with this update apparently being the end of that, I'm kinda disappointed that this is how it happened because nothing romantic even happened...just Roswell spreading the news to give the group yet another thig to think about while Dave still has his own set of issues going on still, romantic and other things. Another thing (that I did see being discussed in the comments) was the abrupt end to the day and thus the romance focus. I know a huge part of why I like this game is that it isn't the typical dating game that kinda forces you with a character to spend time with and only them and all that jazz, but I feel like with how much emphasis is being put on Dave's feelings and his relationship discoveries, it just felt kinda unfinished to end it here. Dave and his partner (from the routes I've read so far) kinda basically say that they're not exactly done figuring everything out anyway, so wouldn't that open up more discussion/focus on it? I know that there is mention of sex in a few of the endings, but even then, there's a disappointing lack of emotion the end. I know I'm biased towards Sal cause it's Sal, but his felt like the best one because of his character: being the voice of reason at all times, I expected a wait on further discussion of their current situation since he's all about making sure Dave does things at the right time, so the wait was welcome...but it'd be very disappointing if this day would be the last of digging deeper into those feelings of theirs. I know this day was heavy on the investigative stuff, which is always good, but I feel like marking a day where there was little focus on the romantic aspect as the end is kinda underwhelming. I know this might sound like I'm pushing for sex, but I just want something really wholesome to happen or them to have a nice, long moment with each other to focus on strengthening their bond (that isn't sex...which doesn't always turn out well as seen with Dean) together that doesn't have to end with some depressing, doom and gloom discussion.
I'll keep this brief because that's a lot of text to go through but:
- Romance arcs are over, but Dave having a relationship isn't just going to be a side thought as we go into the final act. There'll still be couples moments in there, but it's going to be hard to realistically have deep and meaningful discussions about a relationship when they're under siege by a homicidal rabbit.
- I'm gonna rework the endings of those days given people felt they were flat. I agree too, they were flat and you guys deserved better, but not all of those relationships can be straight into gushing about having feelings because... that's not how relationships work. But I'll amend something better in there at least.
Sal is my everything omg
Hi Grizz. I'm a Tyson Hoss and Dean fan and I just wanted to let you know I personally really love the way their romance routes played out! Tyson's special moments with dave had me teary eyed for like months. Their ''bro'' relationship was so intense I loved getting to be part of it, Hoss's moments were funny and laid back as fitting for him, and Dean's were classy and romantic which were fitting for him, so I had a really good time seeing it all. I've made up pretend stories privately before, and man it can be crazy balancing emotional character relationships with super complicated mystery stuff.... I feel like Password is super long and huge and has so much more emotional depth to it than I could possibly expect outta just one single story made by one guy, and I want you to know I think it's awesome and it cheers me up just getting a new update each month! I don't know if compliments like this mean a whole lot to you or not, but I just felt like I had some positive stuff to say so I wanted to to say it! Thanks for making such cool characters!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, and hopefully you continue to enjoy! Compliments are always nice, too! Password isn't finished though, and I know there are some parts that really need a good polishing, but you're very welcome all the same!
So is the main story done? Or is this VN “not done” in regards to some bug fixed/polishes?
Have you played it? You'll get a message end of demo, so no it's not done. The VN is meant to last a month and its on day 20 so still a ways to go.
I was not a fan of the lackluster act 2 resolutions of the romance plotlines, they were severely underwhelming and were more of a distraction from the murder mystery. I wouldn't have missed anything if they weren't there. And after reading the Patreon post on upcoming changes for Steam and Nintendo platforms... I am disappointed and feel it is time to quit this VN. Best of luck. :/
I'm sorry you feel that way, but the romance angle wasn't ever really meant to be the main focus. Admittedly I botched that delivery so I do apologize.
Though for my own benefit, what exactly was lackluster about it? Just the lack of sex scenes or? Naturally any chance I can get to be a better writer I'll take, so hit me with that feedback.
I can see how it was lackluster. Even with it not being the main focus the way the characters are fleshed out you can't help but get attached. You spend time with them learning their history, hopes and dreams. Then it just ends with a black screen and a line of 'i spent the night with my *incert species here*, and thats it.
All the character building, getting so close to them and it just culminated to the equivalent of just skipping to the next day.
I'm open to reworking those scenes, but with the restriction that I can't have explicit sexual content in-game (for a number of reasons), what would a suitable alternative be?
For me personally i just found them 'meh' but since you mentioned doing additions like the daveXtyson where appropriate as extras i'm not all that bothered with it.
However there are ways to do it without blatantly going ''then they knot fucked''. Maybe rather than thinking about wording it erotic go in a different direction. After all its just looking to be more impactful and satisfying.
I’m no author so I’m probably going to be terrible but I shall try to do an example (I will probably do terrible crimes of cringe).
'My heart was beating like a war drum as we went back to my room. A thousand thoughts running through my mind. When we arrived it was like the birth of a galaxy. Everything was new. Things that were so simple suddenly had new meaning and more gravitas. A touch of the hands, his fingers entwined with mine. His sent that had become so familiar filled me with comfort. His arms wrapping around me made me feel safe from the horrors of the world. And there in that embrace I fell into the sweetest slumber. As if ascending to paradise our souls intertwined our hearts beating as one.'
Yes Dave would never say or think like that, like I said I’m not an author and I’m not part of any fanfic stuff either. This is more an example of just fluffing thing up to sound more impactful. It can be summed up as ‘’we went back to my room and I fell asleep in his arms’’. However it sound a lot more grandiose when you frame it differently. What I tried to do was frame it with spirituality.
If it's a framing issue I can 100% fix that. Would it be a fade to black, just added prose in-between lines that currently exist? What would you say is appropriate for a route like Sal's or even Hoss's where they're still just figuring things out? It's easy when there's deep-seated emotions already there, but I'm stuck on the others that don't.
I have a little to add here if that's alright.
To the people that need explicit sex scenes to have a good finale, I don't know if there is a compromise to ever be had. The fade to black parts were already that nice middle ground I thought. Heck even that was more than I expected since all I had hoped for from Tysons route was that "I love you" moment with Dave and maybe an awkward kiss. Both of which were delivered on (and then some).
I guess if I had to add anything, since I'm overall satisfied with what we do have, maybe just more dialogue or descriptions in some places would be nice. Orlando and Hoss could both do with a bit more because as it is both of their scenes kind of just happen and it's suddenly over whereas Dean and Tyson have that little bit extra.
This sort of applies to each route overall as well, not just day 19, that more dialogue could be added to flesh out everyone's relationship with Dave just that little bit more.
As an example, my favorite part in that pdf was probably Tyson licking Dave affectionately at the end. It was cute and overall a minor thing, but even something that minor stuck with me.
That story actually had a lot I wish was in the game itself. And I don't mean the sexual more explicit parts, I think it's that we get to see them interact for a bit longer and it just felt more natural. Like, it really felt like they loved each other then and it was... well, nice.
So to summarize, it's primarily a pacing issue? We can fluff up the scene a little bit with extraneous detail easily enough, I just assumed people wouldn't want something dragged out when it wasn't going to lead to something explicit. Although the more tender things we should be fine to work in (such as the licking from Tyson).
I'm a little stuck however when it comes to the amount of what's reasonable for certain characters wildly outweigh others:
- Orlando/Tyson/Dean have long-standing affection for Dave in varying degrees so to this end Orlando got the short end of the stick and should be fixed accordingly. (Granted he's a lot messier in the sack than the other two)
- Roswell/Sal/Hoss all fit under the 'still figuring it out' umbrella with varying levels of sexual drive. So there being this same level of romantic tenderness doesn't really seem appropriate.
And that's kind of where adding dialogue in random places doesn't really work either as a quick fix. On one hand we have to balance the mystery, which is supposed to be the main focus, but also not overshadow it which to my own failing I've botched. Still, for someone like Sal to start opening up during the vacation and Dave becoming closer to him as a friend doesn't leave much in the character arc to start reminiscing freely about backstory when we're also in the shoes of a depressed hyena.
I'll see if I can think of a solution but it's not going to be a simple fix I think.
Makeout sessions? Like, you could have them kiss a bit, but not go into detail with it.
I have a feeling that someone on this vacation isn't who they seem to be, but I need more information to make a sound call. 🤔🤔🤔
I have a question, when the update is release, what should I do? re-download and delete the first data or...?
Oh yeah, so how many routes can be played? (just curious)
1. Download the latest version and run it. It will automatically detect your saves.
2. One for each main cast member of Dave's friends. There are additional branches for the bad timelines however.
I'm sorry, but I think I ask the wrong question.
I want to ask, how many path in this vn that can be played?
If you mean the ones that have letters, A through to E so far can be accessed, although not all are finished. If you meant something else, I don't know what you're asking, sorry.
oh so there are five paths... I see... Which one is the main path?
And don't apologize, you didn't do anything wrong... 😅
As of right now, A and B are currently ongoing.
hey so Password has a Personality DataBase page that could really use some love
https://www.personality-database.com/profile?pid=2&cid=11&sub_cat_id=12572
First password is in the bad ending and has more attention drawn to it
If you haven't gotten a password correct yet, the bad ends you've been seeing are the ones you want
Just bumping this to the top incase any late comers.
Password in 2022 pupblic notice: https://www.patreon.com/posts/password-in-2022-62493391
damnnnnnn i really wanted to see a scene with tyson T^T oh well.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/some-exciting-58689094 Here.
oh wow wtf that was hot, thank you omg.
I wonder if there is an actual password that you can input first time you see the keypad
There is but what it unlocked was removed and was non cannon, now it just closes the VN.
Can you tell us more? I am curious what that password was and what it did.
Ok so, when I saw the message I got super curious, I searched for an old version everywhere, dug through every single post and message and FINALLY found an old version of the game. And what it unlocked was literally just an "They all died lmao" ending, not really something too interesting and I understand why it was removed.
Originally it was me testing to see how Renpy handled jumping through the script as a preliminary test to how I wanted to handle the vault system. So in part of that I riff'd 999 and as said above, a "lol all ded" ending.
this entire game is the vine boom sound effect and i mean this is the BEST way possible
I don't know what this means but I agree 100%
Maybe this is a spoiler. So, you've been warned...
Okay, I've finished Tyson's route and replay it until i have to put a password on day eleventh path A. I'm confused, why didn't I get that part before? I mean, I always remember every password that I had input... u'know, i write it on a note
pretty sure its there on every route however i'm not sure how important it is as it doesn't lead to a bad end.
Actually, I've found it. and yes, you're right it doesn't lead to a bad ending.
Has the 0.39 version been uploaded here？Using patreon is quite a pain for me, so I always buy the game from itch. But now it's been TWO DAYS, and it keeps telling me "0.38 uploaded 32 days ago." T_T
you need to use the link on patreon which will take you to itch's verification screen then after thats done you can get the next build
does that mean the latest update is only for patrons?
There is no public update this month given I was moving over the holiday period. Patrons didn't get one last month, so what they got this month will roll down to public next month.
Okay, so for the next update will be Dean and Tyson, right? Can't wait 😆
Nope character routes are done now, so its all just wraping up the mystery so its all routes.
So the whole true ending thing in the patreon post has me wondering a bit. Namely if it'll be in it's own separate timeline or will every route inevitably lead to it.
I guess I'm just curious if we'll get character endings where Dave gets that happy ending with the route partner now. Or if it will even matter if 5/6 always have the lingering smell of "it doesn't work out" hanging over them.
And I get the game has never been a dating sim with the mystery being the true focus. Just... idk, it'll be sad if the romance parts are meaningless to care about outside one route.
I think the whole timeline thing is literally just referencing save files…because to Dave, not knowing how he remembers passwords but still getting them is just us, the player being Dave in different saves files with knowledge from a different one.
Also we’ll just hafta see, but Dave being in a relationship or not isn’t exactly mandatory when it comes to getting of the mountain in the end…routes in this game (and pretty much everywhere) are kinda there for perspective building, but there’s always an overall story to tell :)
Probably safe to say Roswell and Sal aren't cannon boyfriends judging from what grizz said about the sequel. If they where then dave would probably guaranteed to pop up but with even a dave cameo being a maybe i think probably not.
I'm making an active effort to leave the hyena with his happy end come the end of Password, regardless of who the intended boyfriend is. So if it is Sal or Roswell, know the story I want to tell with the sequel is a lot less focused on romantic relationships and dealing with the fact the police are kinda garbage in-universe currently.
Theres going to be a sequel??! :'D