I haven't finished the game yet, but I can already say that I was taken by surprise, a good surprise. Great job!
(I will post more comments according to experience, I think that passing the feedback to the creator is important :)
Edit: OK, Now I feel stupid. I don't know if it's because English isn't my original language and that's why I didn't realize it, but... I've played (and still am, it's 2:51 am) for over 4 hours straight and I feel stupid for not have put a single correct password! The title screen of Sal's bad ending is the image I saw the most in the game aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
The worst thing is that I don't even know if the password is case sensitive.
Edit2: Wanted to make a note, the game is good, give the game a try if you haven't played it yet.
Edit3: I read half of the comments about how passwords are put on bad endings and I refuse to sleep without getting at least 1!
EDIT4 and last: I really am dumb. after trying 80% of the words at the end and pausing to read more than half of the itch.io comments I could see it (it was obvious, but give me a break I was too shocked to have noticed)
Ok so this is utterly amazing? Like the story being crafted, the twists, i'm all for it. Also Sal is the best man there, not up for debate! jk (but not really though).
So, am i just dumb or is Orlando's route not done yet? I didn't try any passwords on days 1-6 since i had no clue what they could be, getting his bad ending because of that. But when i choose to go back to day 6 to enter the password and open the vault, Orlando ends up dying anyway. Do i have to use another password like the words on Hoss' sheet (haven't tried any of them yet btw) or do i have to try that same password some other day?
If you are still stuck, I'm pretty sure that this is the one where you have to do something you wouldn't normally do...I think reverse psychology plays a big role here
Question! I was playing on my phone but now I felt like moving to my pc, can I move the parts that were saved on my phone to my pc or do all again? not a problem, loving this so far
actually, you can! (at least, I think.) go to the application folder (should be under Android>Data) and replace the saves in your computer's app folder with those on your phone.
The reason why I'm not completely confident in this method is because I was able to successfully transfer my data from a computer to my phone through this, but I have not tested the other way around,
You need high affection before he shows you the library, the thing that tripped me up is chasing after Tyson after orlando's confession. You need to stay and talk to Hoss instead.
Mainly because it was voted upon that people wanted the good and bad timelines to alternate where possible to break up the sad content rather than get hit with it mostly all at once.
I do admit that it was sorta sad because of... Reasons, but thanks for the content anyways! At first I was hesitating a bit to play this game, but now I really like it! It does have it's sad moments of course, but I feel like its what makes this game so good!
Hello Grizz, you may remember that i somehow got patreon content on the public build from last month. I've downloaded the current version and, after testing my saves, i am happy to say that i haven't got more content than it should have. Now to waiting for another month, which i don't mind.
Again, terribly sorry that happened to you and for whatever it's worth, you weren't the only one that reported such an incident happened. Still no idea how it could have happened given the loopholes that would've needed to be jumped through in how I handle my files normally but it is what it is. Hopefully next month's content is worth the wait!
Anyone know how to read day 21/bad timeline? IDK how to get it and none of the saves I have so far will let me progress to day 21. Likely will have to start a new game.... So does anyone know what choice I have to make?
Are you doing Tyson's route by chance? You can't get to the new bad timeline with him if so, you'll stop at day 20 A/B with this update.
If you're on someone else's and can't reach day 21 path F/G, outside of redownloading the update or trying a new save file I don't know. Not inputting the password on day 17 should always lead to it.
It's always hosted on Dropbox as a default. It's because it's Easter that I kept getting called away from updating it on itch as it needs to be done manually. With Patreon I can schedule things ahead of time to launch while I can enjoy a sleep in.
Thanks a lot!! (I figured out just right now how to see replies on own comments in an easier way, I've tried digging in the comments after I came back but couldn't find it, thanks again! )
I finished reading Foreign Affairs last night, after finding it linked in the comments here a few weeks ago. I have to admit I found the whole thing rather cute and funny. The language barrier between some of them and the confusion that came as a result, or, more specifically, the silliness, had me cracking up tonight. I really needed the laugh because I spe4nt several hours in the dark due to a rainstorm knocking out the power for close to five hours.
I know you've had people give mixed feelings on it, but I loved it!
Quick question: are there actually passwords to find for the vault visits on days 1-6 before stuff starts going down, or are these visits there just as a for fun/exploration kinda thing ?
Or are we wasting our time trying to find a password at this stage ?
The last April Fool's stuff I did was make Foreign Affairs which people assumed was real. Given the amount of Patrons I lost to that and hate-mail I got from fans of Tennis Ace for the audacity for attempting to steal Basket away made it very not worth it in the end.
Basket and I had fun with it, and he was great to work with, but the fan response to it on both sides left a bad taste in my mouth. I had to go back in and put in bold that it was an April Fool's joke just for posterity but even then, the damage had been done.
That's too bad people reacted negatively to it. I honestly would be intrigued if that actually happened. But to go so far as to send hate mail? I don't know if they were worth keeping then. 🙂🙂🙂
I imagine someone will end up making a fan guide, but given it's a central gameplay mechanic and story tool, I'd only ever be considering it once the story is done.
Ok so im new-ish but i have a couple of questions.
POTENTIAL SPOILERS
Are there more pass words then wat we know of like the ones on Hoss sheet, there are bad memories tha I've missed 3 in total I've tried all I can but non seem to be working, also are the 2 CG of Dean's not supposed to be in the gallery? The no no and the one were they first share the bed?(morning wood)
BTW great VN it really gets you on the eage of your seat😆 sry if there's a bit of questions
Wow tha kinda sucks😅 i love the whole romance/murder mystery vibe, and to be honest i dont like the change, its fine tho I'll still read😊 i love the story anyways but it'll just feel weird ig thx for the info
Sorry I got distracted by something. Anyway don't read if you do not wish to possibly ruin the game for yourself.
So after reviewing all the bad endings and up to date content, I believe that "Roswell" is the one behind the events, at least at one point in time. I went back to study all the deaths and out of all of them so far, Dean is the only one who suffers. He gets poisoned, Sal is frozen, Roswell is hit from behind, (possibly could've suffered) Hoss is stabbed in the chest, Orlando was injected, (?) Tyson could've suffered as well but we don't know if he died right away or not. Who could possibly have a grudge against Dean? Well, I don't want to spoil too much so I'll say; read through the game and try to put it together.😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃
Interesting, I also feel that rosswell is the culprit... With the purpose of making everyone feel the same way that he is dying or maybe suffering(?)
But I feel that the mastermind behind this incident is Dave's mother. Indeed, there is no solid evidence yet, but I have a feeling that she is the culprit
If Florencia is the master of the Vault then I think it is her and/or Benson. Regardless...i think it is whoever the master is.
I think this entire trip was to test Morphic Resonance and the vault. Benson is loyal to the Hammond family and while most of the time is 100% loyal to Oswin, we just learned very valuable information that the ladder he follows is determined by a heirarchy, to which Oswin is not first.
We know that from the Oswin/Benson deaths, both of them were likely betrayed by the same person, and it keeps hinting that it is someone in Os' family (or at the very least he knows personally).
We also know that Thanatos only follows the commands of whoever the master of the vault is. Thanatos does not care who dies in the process.
All of these theories are so intriguing, I just can't take it!! 😩😩
Spoilers:
Edit: this contains spoilers for the next update.
I think the next update (Patreon) is going to be Day 21 of the "good" path, and we know from the last update that someone will show up on the "bad" route. But the question is: who is the traitor? They have to be in league with Memphis or maybe not, Roswell is my prime suspect but the theories being shared opened my mind to new possibilities. 😃😃😃😃
When dave asks thanatos to knock him out at the vault it also causes roswell to collapse. Thanatos's noise only works on thoes programed into the vault. On Sals route dave collapses after getting a password and Sal is completely unaffected.
Dave and Orlando are affected because of their fathers in the vault, but Roswell shouldn't be in unless he's a hammond. I think Florencia is Roswells mother.
In one of the bad path Florencia says she's only trying to save one person and will roll the dice repeating the experiment as many times as it takes.
Thanatos's master is also only intrested in saving one person. Dave is the only person who hasn't died in the vault yet (except from orlando's vission but that still hasn't happened yet) and instead it is everyone around dave targeted starting with whoever he is closest to.
If Florencia is Roswells mother you would think she would be trying to save him with what is in the vault, but she's the only one with the vaults password and she clearly never gave it to him. She could also just go and get the cure from the vault but purposely doesn't. So she must be trying to save Oz since he's given up living since the experiment gone wrong (which Sal was the only survivor).
Roswell is the only friend who thinks he needs to save Dave from himself, he also has knowledge about the house and its secret passages which he shouldn't know.
I wanted to ask. Ive recently played the new update, but I haven't got any of the new title screens yet. Is there a problem? Are the new title screens PC only?
I dont believe the new title screens are actually on in this build as when i was going through it last month i never got any. However they are in the next build, its not a big deal just a nice little thing.
so, i just finished exploring the new paths F and G, and am very confused as to what are dreams or memories or both. i suppose there is no way around it other than waiting for new updates, but i would like to know if the memories are always something that would happen at a later point, or something that could have happened earlier but didn't?
What would make it easier to figure that out? I feel like I might need to drop another line in there somewhere about the universal timeline being a constant loop of similar events but I could've sworn Roswell said something to that effect in the last few days of current content.
the confusion is mostly on how come certain events would have been possible to happen. i have to assume the variables branch off earlier than the story begins, but there is one in particular i can't figure out how it would have been possible because of a specific character showing a side that doesn't match what i know about them. maybe once we learn what is the purpose of the experiment but that's something for the end of the month most likely.
No...? The files weren't even written when I packaged those up. So what you played was absolutely the Patron build. Unless something real screwy is going on.
EDIT: Confirmed it on my end, the version uploaded does not have Day 21 on it, so where did you get your copy?
All good! You aren't the first and likely won't be the last.
But stuff vanishing from the gallery is really weird. There's not been a report of that before so I wonder if your persistent data is getting wiped at some point. Is it just the gallery and CGs, or is it also messing with the music room?
yeah it has sometimes, im trying to listen to one thing the next second it glitches and i have to replay the song again, its a bit frustrating cause its been happening for some time now (since the day 19 update)
I have a question. With all of the routes by day 19 besides Sal, prior to the current update, the character whose route you're on kisses you at least once after you become a couple. Yet, despite the fact I've gotten the two of them together on his route ( which was done really well btw) there's no scene showing them kissing like there is with the others. There's a part when Dave isn't sure of he should hug Sal or not, but neither option went any farther than that, so in curious if I did something wrong somewhere.
The reason I asked is because I'm missing one of the images in the memories gallery. Specifically, the one that, if the were to scroll all the way down so the screen shows the last 14 images for that gallery, shows in the first position. Based on the way the images were lined up by character, I thought it might have been the image of them kissing.
Due to its placement, I'm guessing that's either an image for Tyson's route or (what I thought) for Sal's. Just so I don't end up having to replay BOTH routes to find it, can you give me a hint as to where to go to seek that last image?
I'm also missing a few images in the trauma gallery, but the reason for that Is because the only one I've played through all four paths for is Tyson. I couldn't make myself sit through the trauma scenes of the other characters again. (I lost my gallery progress late last year after trying to move my saves so i could uninstall an old version and install a new one, but i had forgotten a step and it wiped everything out).
I want to apologize for judging this by its cover. I did Ty's route path C then to A and I am impressed by everything, including what I initially judged. Ten outta ten, will recommend.
Edit: however Shadow of Doubt and Shades of Uncertainty always trick me into thinking something is wrong with my pc whenever they play.
Glad to hear! Although is there something actively glitching about the music or is it just something with the mixing that's taking you out of the experience?
I don’t know anything about music so I can’t describe it in a way that makes sense. It just sounds like something is hitting my fan blade a couple times a second in exactly the same spot. It’s a fast “onetwothreefour” non stop.
In a linear sense you would be about right but regarding workload it would probably be around 80-85% since the romance routes had a lot of varying content but now its just a/b and f/g
I've only played through four of the routes so far, but I'm really liking where we've gotten so far. The majority of the questions I've had have been at least touched on or answered. Thanatos being the ultimate gatekeeper is something that I actually really like because he lets the characters and myself actually think about what they ask and find out.
Spoilers?
I kinda have two concerns though...my first is with Roswell and the news being out now...I remember that you had wrote about your plans about the sequel to this game, and you mentioned that Roswell would still be around for that...I know that time will tell in this situation, but I kinda wish that would've been left unsaid because when he made the announcement, it just kinda fell flat for me like a "oh that was in the trailer" moment. I feel like all it did was delay the romance focus, but with this update apparently being the end of that, I'm kinda disappointed that this is how it happened because nothing romantic even happened...just Roswell spreading the news to give the group yet another thig to think about while Dave still has his own set of issues going on still, romantic and other things. Another thing (that I did see being discussed in the comments) was the abrupt end to the day and thus the romance focus. I know a huge part of why I like this game is that it isn't the typical dating game that kinda forces you with a character to spend time with and only them and all that jazz, but I feel like with how much emphasis is being put on Dave's feelings and his relationship discoveries, it just felt kinda unfinished to end it here. Dave and his partner (from the routes I've read so far) kinda basically say that they're not exactly done figuring everything out anyway, so wouldn't that open up more discussion/focus on it? I know that there is mention of sex in a few of the endings, but even then, there's a disappointing lack of emotion the end. I know I'm biased towards Sal cause it's Sal, but his felt like the best one because of his character: being the voice of reason at all times, I expected a wait on further discussion of their current situation since he's all about making sure Dave does things at the right time, so the wait was welcome...but it'd be very disappointing if this day would be the last of digging deeper into those feelings of theirs. I know this day was heavy on the investigative stuff, which is always good, but I feel like marking a day where there was little focus on the romantic aspect as the end is kinda underwhelming. I know this might sound like I'm pushing for sex, but I just want something really wholesome to happen or them to have a nice, long moment with each other to focus on strengthening their bond (that isn't sex...which doesn't always turn out well as seen with Dean) together that doesn't have to end with some depressing, doom and gloom discussion.
I'll keep this brief because that's a lot of text to go through but:
- Romance arcs are over, but Dave having a relationship isn't just going to be a side thought as we go into the final act. There'll still be couples moments in there, but it's going to be hard to realistically have deep and meaningful discussions about a relationship when they're under siege by a homicidal rabbit.
- I'm gonna rework the endings of those days given people felt they were flat. I agree too, they were flat and you guys deserved better, but not all of those relationships can be straight into gushing about having feelings because... that's not how relationships work. But I'll amend something better in there at least.
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I haven't finished the game yet, but I can already say that I was taken by surprise, a good surprise. Great job!
(I will post more comments according to experience, I think that passing the feedback to the creator is important :)
Edit: OK, Now I feel stupid. I don't know if it's because English isn't my original language and that's why I didn't realize it, but... I've played (and still am, it's 2:51 am) for over 4 hours straight and I feel stupid for not have put a single correct password! The title screen of Sal's bad ending is the image I saw the most in the game aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
The worst thing is that I don't even know if the password is case sensitive.
Edit2: Wanted to make a note, the game is good, give the game a try if you haven't played it yet.
Edit3: I read half of the comments about how passwords are put on bad endings and I refuse to sleep without getting at least 1!
EDIT4 and last: I really am dumb. after trying 80% of the words at the end and pausing to read more than half of the itch.io comments I could see it (it was obvious, but give me a break I was too shocked to have noticed)
Tyson's route is so good
ok, so I read some of the comments here and comments on the updates... I barely scratched the surface :]
how many passwords are there?
I found three.. whats the password for day 3?
( im new btw just finished tyson's route)
and what does the "path/s" mean?
you can ignore the passwords before day 4 they're just for testing purposes really.
The paths are based on whether you lie to the group or not, more recently "bad" paths have been added if you don't get a certain password.
Ok so this is utterly amazing? Like the story being crafted, the twists, i'm all for it. Also Sal is the best man there, not up for debate! jk (but not really though).
SPOILERS FOR ORLANDO'S ROUTE
So, am i just dumb or is Orlando's route not done yet? I didn't try any passwords on days 1-6 since i had no clue what they could be, getting his bad ending because of that. But when i choose to go back to day 6 to enter the password and open the vault, Orlando ends up dying anyway. Do i have to use another password like the words on Hoss' sheet (haven't tried any of them yet btw) or do i have to try that same password some other day?
Technically none of the routes are done, but you can get much further than that. Use the same password, just try something else.
*Orlando route spoilers*
If you are still stuck, I'm pretty sure that this is the one where you have to do something you wouldn't normally do...I think reverse psychology plays a big role here
Question! I was playing on my phone but now I felt like moving to my pc, can I move the parts that were saved on my phone to my pc or do all again? not a problem, loving this so far
I don't think you can
actually, you can! (at least, I think.) go to the application folder (should be under Android>Data) and replace the saves in your computer's app folder with those on your phone.
The reason why I'm not completely confident in this method is because I was able to successfully transfer my data from a computer to my phone through this, but I have not tested the other way around,
Is there a route guide? Cuz I forgot how to unlock Hoss' second cg...again.
You need high affection before he shows you the library, the thing that tripped me up is chasing after Tyson after orlando's confession. You need to stay and talk to Hoss instead.
Thanks for the update! I shall... attempt to play it. But I don't like onions near my face.
Im crying nonstop right now tbh
Im sorry if im being rude but why did it have to be a bad timeline, i just wanted all of them alive😭😭😭
Mainly because it was voted upon that people wanted the good and bad timelines to alternate where possible to break up the sad content rather than get hit with it mostly all at once.
I feel like if we got the entire bad timeline at once at least a quarter of the playerbase would get some form of ptsd
Tyson is a wild ride and he's an interesting character. Thoroughly enjoyed his route up to this point!
Ayy, the new update was pretty good!
I do admit that it was sorta sad because of... Reasons, but thanks for the content anyways! At first I was hesitating a bit to play this game, but now I really like it! It does have it's sad moments of course, but I feel like its what makes this game so good!
Hello Grizz, you may remember that i somehow got patreon content on the public build from last month. I've downloaded the current version and, after testing my saves, i am happy to say that i haven't got more content than it should have. Now to waiting for another month, which i don't mind.
Again, terribly sorry that happened to you and for whatever it's worth, you weren't the only one that reported such an incident happened. Still no idea how it could have happened given the loopholes that would've needed to be jumped through in how I handle my files normally but it is what it is. Hopefully next month's content is worth the wait!
If you liked the latest version, you will like the next one too. 😃😃😃
Why is tha?
It gets interesting, lets just say that.
Oh no is tha a good thing or a bad thing?
I'm not going to specify, I don't want to do anymore spoilers.
Anyone know how to read day 21/bad timeline? IDK how to get it and none of the saves I have so far will let me progress to day 21. Likely will have to start a new game.... So does anyone know what choice I have to make?
In short, fail to input Day 17's Password right.
But... That's what I did. I got end of demo...
Are you doing Tyson's route by chance? You can't get to the new bad timeline with him if so, you'll stop at day 20 A/B with this update.
If you're on someone else's and can't reach day 21 path F/G, outside of redownloading the update or trying a new save file I don't know. Not inputting the password on day 17 should always lead to it.
How to get to path F/G tho? Can you tell me?
By not using the password on day 17 and being on anyone but Tyson's route.
Public build for this month:- https://www.patreon.com/posts/public-demo-a0-65144627
Guessing it's because the last public build on here for some people gave the patreon build so its in dropbox this time
It's always hosted on Dropbox as a default. It's because it's Easter that I kept getting called away from updating it on itch as it needs to be done manually. With Patreon I can schedule things ahead of time to launch while I can enjoy a sleep in.
Would anyone be so kind to explain to me what are paths and how it works again?? Especially if there are any plot-variances between routes?
paths: https://www.patreon.com/posts/on-topic-of-42690779
Paths go up to F for now. Paths usually differ by who is alive or not so there is quite a big difference between them and the good timeline.
There's an F now? I've gotten E before, but I didn't know there was more...could you give me a clue or something on how to get F?
dont put a password for day 17 on any route but tysons (since his skip it)
Thanks a lot!! (I figured out just right now how to see replies on own comments in an easier way, I've tried digging in the comments after I came back but couldn't find it, thanks again! )
I'm following this. I could use more LGBT horror/mystery VNs. And I like Sal already~
The fact that it has gay characters in it is one of the elements that draw me in. 🙂🙂🙂
I finished reading Foreign Affairs last night, after finding it linked in the comments here a few weeks ago. I have to admit I found the whole thing rather cute and funny. The language barrier between some of them and the confusion that came as a result, or, more specifically, the silliness, had me cracking up tonight. I really needed the laugh because I spe4nt several hours in the dark due to a rainstorm knocking out the power for close to five hours.
I know you've had people give mixed feelings on it, but I loved it!
Is it good? I want to see it but my device has issues with Dropbox. 😥😥😥
I thought so. I found it kept me amused almost the whole way through. Some parts of it were... interesting too.
Quick question: are there actually passwords to find for the vault visits on days 1-6 before stuff starts going down, or are these visits there just as a for fun/exploration kinda thing ?
Or are we wasting our time trying to find a password at this stage ?
A little of both. Some are route dependent, some are for Patrons and some are just for internal testing.
thanks for clarifying that, i had a headache because of that xD ( amazing all your work, i love Dean and Tyson)
I feel stupid, what Kind of hints im a suppose paying attention to for the password.
Look for any specific words that stand out in the bad endings, past when you've likely needed to use one.
OK that help so much thank you, i though i was going crazy or something
Is it possible to find the passwords before the bad endings?
Yes there's 2 you can get before the bad end right now (im pretty sure)
for the initial ones no, and that's good design to present you with the mechanic
No April Fools stuff Grizz? 🤔
The last April Fool's stuff I did was make Foreign Affairs which people assumed was real. Given the amount of Patrons I lost to that and hate-mail I got from fans of Tennis Ace for the audacity for attempting to steal Basket away made it very not worth it in the end.
Basket and I had fun with it, and he was great to work with, but the fan response to it on both sides left a bad taste in my mouth. I had to go back in and put in bold that it was an April Fool's joke just for posterity but even then, the damage had been done.
That's too bad people reacted negatively to it. I honestly would be intrigued if that actually happened. But to go so far as to send hate mail? I don't know if they were worth keeping then. 🙂🙂🙂
Quick question,will there ever be a sheet or something with all the passwords for people who dont care about the whole "find out the password" thing
I imagine someone will end up making a fan guide, but given it's a central gameplay mechanic and story tool, I'd only ever be considering it once the story is done.
mhh ok thx for aswering
Out of curiosity, I remember one of the patreon perks being access to such a list. Am I misremembering?
Ok so im new-ish but i have a couple of questions.
POTENTIAL SPOILERS
Are there more pass words then wat we know of like the ones on Hoss sheet, there are bad memories tha I've missed 3 in total I've tried all I can but non seem to be working, also are the 2 CG of Dean's not supposed to be in the gallery? The no no and the one were they first share the bed?(morning wood)
BTW great VN it really gets you on the eage of your seat😆 sry if there's a bit of questions
The 2 dean ones will be removed in the future. The ones you're missing are probably from the other paths, explained here:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/on-topic-of-42690779
There is also path F now with tyson day 19 but no CG that is only on that path for now.
Other than that if you're new theres some other things that you can check out.
Foreign affairs: - tennis ace/password crossover
https://www.patreon.com/posts/foreign-affairs-35497802
And DaveXTyson smut
https://www.patreon.com/posts/some-exciting-58689094
If you dont mind me asking why are the 2 Dean ones being removed?
here:https://www.patreon.com/posts/password-in-2022-62493391
but in short Grizz is hoping to release on switch and steam and switch doesn't do smut
Wow tha kinda sucks😅 i love the whole romance/murder mystery vibe, and to be honest i dont like the change, its fine tho I'll still read😊 i love the story anyways but it'll just feel weird ig thx for the info
Same here, I mean, I love the whole romance an mystery vibes... It's different from others (In the good way)
Are you stuck on a Day, or do you keep having bad endings?
All of the bad endings so far can be avoided by inputting the correct password and making the choice to not reveal oz.
All of the CGs in the gallery are obtainable right now.
Possible spoilers?:
Oh my gosh I think I know who the one behind it is.
Sorry I got distracted by something. Anyway don't read if you do not wish to possibly ruin the game for yourself.
So after reviewing all the bad endings and up to date content, I believe that "Roswell" is the one behind the events, at least at one point in time. I went back to study all the deaths and out of all of them so far, Dean is the only one who suffers. He gets poisoned, Sal is frozen, Roswell is hit from behind, (possibly could've suffered) Hoss is stabbed in the chest, Orlando was injected, (?) Tyson could've suffered as well but we don't know if he died right away or not. Who could possibly have a grudge against Dean? Well, I don't want to spoil too much so I'll say; read through the game and try to put it together.😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃
Edit: Let me know what you guys think. 🤗🤗
Interesting, I also feel that rosswell is the culprit... With the purpose of making everyone feel the same way that he is dying or maybe suffering(?)
But I feel that the mastermind behind this incident is Dave's mother. Indeed, there is no solid evidence yet, but I have a feeling that she is the culprit
Hmm interesting. Would you care to explain why you think its her? 🤔🤔
I really don't want to tell you, because it might be a spoiler....😅😅 But here it is...
I'm guessing she's the culprit because she had visit the mansion and maybe it wasn't David himself who dropped his license…. but she was(?)
I also think that the thing that killed Orlando can only be owned by someone with a medical background (so far only Oswin and Dave's mother)
But I haven't found out, what reason she used to do all these things
That's a valid point, very interesting if you think about it.
If Florencia is the master of the Vault then I think it is her and/or Benson. Regardless...i think it is whoever the master is.
I think this entire trip was to test Morphic Resonance and the vault. Benson is loyal to the Hammond family and while most of the time is 100% loyal to Oswin, we just learned very valuable information that the ladder he follows is determined by a heirarchy, to which Oswin is not first.
We know that from the Oswin/Benson deaths, both of them were likely betrayed by the same person, and it keeps hinting that it is someone in Os' family (or at the very least he knows personally).
We also know that Thanatos only follows the commands of whoever the master of the vault is. Thanatos does not care who dies in the process.
All of these theories are so intriguing, I just can't take it!! 😩😩
Spoilers:
Edit: this contains spoilers for the next update.
I think the next update (Patreon) is going to be Day 21 of the "good" path, and we know from the last update that someone will show up on the "bad" route. But the question is: who is the traitor? They have to be in league with Memphis or maybe not, Roswell is my prime suspect but the theories being shared opened my mind to new possibilities. 😃😃😃😃
just musings
When dave asks thanatos to knock him out at the vault it also causes roswell to collapse. Thanatos's noise only works on thoes programed into the vault. On Sals route dave collapses after getting a password and Sal is completely unaffected.
Dave and Orlando are affected because of their fathers in the vault, but Roswell shouldn't be in unless he's a hammond. I think Florencia is Roswells mother.
In one of the bad path Florencia says she's only trying to save one person and will roll the dice repeating the experiment as many times as it takes.
Thanatos's master is also only intrested in saving one person. Dave is the only person who hasn't died in the vault yet (except from orlando's vission but that still hasn't happened yet) and instead it is everyone around dave targeted starting with whoever he is closest to.
If Florencia is Roswells mother you would think she would be trying to save him with what is in the vault, but she's the only one with the vaults password and she clearly never gave it to him. She could also just go and get the cure from the vault but purposely doesn't. So she must be trying to save Oz since he's given up living since the experiment gone wrong (which Sal was the only survivor).
Roswell is the only friend who thinks he needs to save Dave from himself, he also has knowledge about the house and its secret passages which he shouldn't know.
I wanted to ask. Ive recently played the new update, but I haven't got any of the new title screens yet. Is there a problem? Are the new title screens PC only?
I dont believe the new title screens are actually on in this build as when i was going through it last month i never got any. However they are in the next build, its not a big deal just a nice little thing.
I understand. I was just a bit confused cuz I saw others having the new title screens and I just didn't get it. Thank you!
Day 20, Tyson route B
if relevant i transferred my saves from a pc
Got another small bug thing i think this line is attributed incorrectly (day 19 without day 17 password)
One year ago, I bought this game. Its amazing how time flies. 😃😃😃
I was able to "ignore" this to progress.
so, i just finished exploring the new paths F and G, and am very confused as to what are dreams or memories or both. i suppose there is no way around it other than waiting for new updates, but i would like to know if the memories are always something that would happen at a later point, or something that could have happened earlier but didn't?
What would make it easier to figure that out? I feel like I might need to drop another line in there somewhere about the universal timeline being a constant loop of similar events but I could've sworn Roswell said something to that effect in the last few days of current content.
the confusion is mostly on how come certain events would have been possible to happen. i have to assume the variables branch off earlier than the story begins, but there is one in particular i can't figure out how it would have been possible because of a specific character showing a side that doesn't match what i know about them. maybe once we learn what is the purpose of the experiment but that's something for the end of the month most likely.
If you're talking about one in the latest Patron build, I'd wait until next month.
i played the public build, was the path F and G day 21 not supposed to be on it?
No...? The files weren't even written when I packaged those up. So what you played was absolutely the Patron build. Unless something real screwy is going on.
EDIT: Confirmed it on my end, the version uploaded does not have Day 21 on it, so where did you get your copy?
Find a bad ending password? How do I look for it I read carefully but I can't find it
Most passwords are hidden in the bad endings. They are either repeated or have more attention drawn to it. The first is in the letter.
You mean, the password was hidden when the character we were dating nearly died?
The events after the death usually.
To keep you on your toes some passwords come before when you get to the vault!
After starting a new game, I was wondering what everyone's Zodiac signs are? 🤔🤔🤔
Given none have canonical birthdays, that's near impossible to figure out.
Oh ok.
maybe we can just assume whatever the first medal someone finds is to be their sign
Kenapa kau membuat Hoss mati!! Dia laki-laki saya aaahhh Please make him come back
Temukan kata sandi di akhir yang buruk untuk menyelamatkan orang
Try and avoid using passwords in your comments please, it ruins the experience for others only just discovering the game.
On Day 10, Sal will let you pass that scenario regardless of if you get the password correct or not.
As far as CGs vanishing, what are you referring to? As in from the gallery or?
yeah it constantly vanishes from the gallery (also i apologize for putting two passwords in, it wasn't my intention to ruin the experience for others)
All good! You aren't the first and likely won't be the last.
But stuff vanishing from the gallery is really weird. There's not been a report of that before so I wonder if your persistent data is getting wiped at some point. Is it just the gallery and CGs, or is it also messing with the music room?
yeah it has sometimes, im trying to listen to one thing the next second it glitches and i have to replay the song again, its a bit frustrating cause its been happening for some time now (since the day 19 update)
i have noticed this happening with the trauma section of the gallery when new cgs get added, but then it comes back once i completed the gallery again
I have a question. With all of the routes by day 19 besides Sal, prior to the current update, the character whose route you're on kisses you at least once after you become a couple. Yet, despite the fact I've gotten the two of them together on his route ( which was done really well btw) there's no scene showing them kissing like there is with the others. There's a part when Dave isn't sure of he should hug Sal or not, but neither option went any farther than that, so in curious if I did something wrong somewhere.
Nope, everything you did is right. Sal's just not the kissing type amidst juggling his emotions and loyalties to his best friend.
Ah! Okay.
QUESTION/POSSIBLE IMAGE SPOILER?
The reason I asked is because I'm missing one of the images in the memories gallery. Specifically, the one that, if the were to scroll all the way down so the screen shows the last 14 images for that gallery, shows in the first position. Based on the way the images were lined up by character, I thought it might have been the image of them kissing.
Due to its placement, I'm guessing that's either an image for Tyson's route or (what I thought) for Sal's. Just so I don't end up having to replay BOTH routes to find it, can you give me a hint as to where to go to seek that last image?
I'm also missing a few images in the trauma gallery, but the reason for that Is because the only one I've played through all four paths for is Tyson. I couldn't make myself sit through the trauma scenes of the other characters again. (I lost my gallery progress late last year after trying to move my saves so i could uninstall an old version and install a new one, but i had forgotten a step and it wiped everything out).
Ah, play Roswell's route to get that one. It features Tyson, but isn't on his route. You shouldn't need to play much of Roswell's to get it, either.
Is it somewhere before Day 20 for him? I just finished playing Roswell's Day and I didn't see it.
think its from the first bad end for roswell
I have a question
Are all the Zodiac medals obtainable in the diferents routes ?
And they are only in Path A or in the 4 paths
As of right now, not all of them have been discovered in the story, regardless of path.
I want to apologize for judging this by its cover. I did Ty's route path C then to A and I am impressed by everything, including what I initially judged. Ten outta ten, will recommend.
Edit: however Shadow of Doubt and Shades of Uncertainty always trick me into thinking something is wrong with my pc whenever they play.
Glad to hear! Although is there something actively glitching about the music or is it just something with the mixing that's taking you out of the experience?
I don’t know anything about music so I can’t describe it in a way that makes sense. It just sounds like something is hitting my fan blade a couple times a second in exactly the same spot. It’s a fast “onetwothreefour” non stop.
I'll pass this along to Civ and see if he can isolate it and then maybe we can think of something when the tracks get remastered.
77%
What are you referring to?
i often try to guess how far along completion some of the VNs i play are, that was my estimate assuming it will go until day 26
Ah, understood. Good luck in your guess!
In a linear sense you would be about right but regarding workload it would probably be around 80-85% since the romance routes had a lot of varying content but now its just a/b and f/g
I've only played through four of the routes so far, but I'm really liking where we've gotten so far. The majority of the questions I've had have been at least touched on or answered. Thanatos being the ultimate gatekeeper is something that I actually really like because he lets the characters and myself actually think about what they ask and find out.
Spoilers?
I kinda have two concerns though...my first is with Roswell and the news being out now...I remember that you had wrote about your plans about the sequel to this game, and you mentioned that Roswell would still be around for that...I know that time will tell in this situation, but I kinda wish that would've been left unsaid because when he made the announcement, it just kinda fell flat for me like a "oh that was in the trailer" moment. I feel like all it did was delay the romance focus, but with this update apparently being the end of that, I'm kinda disappointed that this is how it happened because nothing romantic even happened...just Roswell spreading the news to give the group yet another thig to think about while Dave still has his own set of issues going on still, romantic and other things. Another thing (that I did see being discussed in the comments) was the abrupt end to the day and thus the romance focus. I know a huge part of why I like this game is that it isn't the typical dating game that kinda forces you with a character to spend time with and only them and all that jazz, but I feel like with how much emphasis is being put on Dave's feelings and his relationship discoveries, it just felt kinda unfinished to end it here. Dave and his partner (from the routes I've read so far) kinda basically say that they're not exactly done figuring everything out anyway, so wouldn't that open up more discussion/focus on it? I know that there is mention of sex in a few of the endings, but even then, there's a disappointing lack of emotion the end. I know I'm biased towards Sal cause it's Sal, but his felt like the best one because of his character: being the voice of reason at all times, I expected a wait on further discussion of their current situation since he's all about making sure Dave does things at the right time, so the wait was welcome...but it'd be very disappointing if this day would be the last of digging deeper into those feelings of theirs. I know this day was heavy on the investigative stuff, which is always good, but I feel like marking a day where there was little focus on the romantic aspect as the end is kinda underwhelming. I know this might sound like I'm pushing for sex, but I just want something really wholesome to happen or them to have a nice, long moment with each other to focus on strengthening their bond (that isn't sex...which doesn't always turn out well as seen with Dean) together that doesn't have to end with some depressing, doom and gloom discussion.
I'll keep this brief because that's a lot of text to go through but:
- Romance arcs are over, but Dave having a relationship isn't just going to be a side thought as we go into the final act. There'll still be couples moments in there, but it's going to be hard to realistically have deep and meaningful discussions about a relationship when they're under siege by a homicidal rabbit.
- I'm gonna rework the endings of those days given people felt they were flat. I agree too, they were flat and you guys deserved better, but not all of those relationships can be straight into gushing about having feelings because... that's not how relationships work. But I'll amend something better in there at least.