(spoiler) (last theory here than moving to discord to rant) wait, wait, wait, in the benson bad end it says Orlando and Sal went to visit Sal's sister but we later learn she's dead isn't that like super sus and we don't ever hear from them again did they pull a Roswell and go to the masion or something else? but then it made me realise dean knew too why didn't he think it suspicious? and now that I've revisited that conversation is so foreshadowy just like Deans really
That can mean they went to visit her grave or the place she died. we know this is something he doesn't want to talk about with just anyone. He spoke about his sister as if she was alive before he told MC as well. I don't think that's Sus I think that's just part of his grieving process.
Damn it just let me tell Orlando I wold rather him then Dean!!! I saved on the last Choice for Orlando I can't tell what Orlando needs right now, I feel like the more I try to get Close to him the more he pushes me to be with Dean (I'm really starting to hate Dean) but the second Choice doesn’t feel like it did any good. I just want Orlando to know I like him as more than a friend T.T why do you hate me Grizz!!
Just a theory I had not long after I posted about that bad ending XD. No real evidence to back it up yet maybe In the next update. I look forward to seeing if I'm Correct.
Probably, Tysons bad ending dean acts odd and they say it looks like he was attacked by a bear and deans bad end is the only one that isn't caused by another. He just accidently forgot to wash his hands, all other bad ends are murder but not his.
I said this in a different comment I think but when dean dies he was trying to kill the MC. I think he was trying to do a murder suicide like thing. Remeber he tried to hand feed you with is poisoned hand. The reason the others die except for benson is because the MC was getting closer to them. I don't think he's the main villain in the story there's definitely something else going on. I think the MC will have to stop everyone from killing each other but they don't always know what there doing. The only reason I think this is because of the axe Sal finds in his room.
*Spoiler (major)* this is just a theory but Orlando put sacrifice and saw you hanging from a meat hook and Dean said he feels that you will need to hurt yourself one day to do the right thing perhaps the MC came to the conclusion or was forced into a position where that someone had to die or they all would, thus the sacrifice being the MC for his friends lives that still wouldn't explain the meat hook since there are other ways to KYS so perhaps the white ghost has some thing to do with it? Or Dean means emotionally hurt not physically like letting the love interest go or die? dont know whats some other thoughts?
I hope your wrong or at less I hope we can somehow avoid it. I already had one disappointing ending to a VN I really liked with in the last few months where you have no way to save the person you date. I'm still upset about it and I really hope they go back and give us a good ending at some point I don't even want to read any of their other VN because of this I just don't trust them anymore XD. My theory is that the meat hooks are in the Cabin I bet it’s a hunting cabin and the meat hooks are used to hang the animal as you clean and cut them up.
I'll tell you this much. This VN does have a good end planned where everyone survives including a romantic end for your husbando if you've opted for romance instead of just friendship.
Cause otherwise... yeah, spending a whole game without a clear 'good' ending when you're strung along to believe there should be is rough.
well yeah I expected that since the point of this game is kinda experience the bad to learn more and get to the good I was just thinking that you are going to sacrifice something and through that sacrifice you learn the truth and the way to save everyone perhaps a password or something else. on a side note Deans starting to worry me a bit he has a lot of foreshadowing in his route and I kind of had an epiphany with his death it said he died because of poison or similar and it wasnt deathcap since it takes ~6 days to die (Mycology book) so what if he found something that hut that was mentioned or a lab, where there are poisons stored he touched something there and forgot to wash his hands but the question if this is true why didn't he tell anyone perhaps he didn't think it mattered? or another case is it didn't seem to have anything dangerous with a brief look, sorry for ranting writing helps sort my thoughts
No worries XD I actually have some suspicion for Dean myself. I think he may actually be the one killing people. Don't forget he did try to feed you with that unclean poison hand. Grizz did tell me there is a reason you are being pushed towards Dean. In Orlando's case I think Dean is trying to get Orlando to set you up with him. I think Dean is targetting the others because you are getting closer to them. Ty was killed by what looks like a wild bear Sal was receiving medicine from Dean. Dean is linked to at less one of these deaths and the other is a strange coincidence. I'm starting to think Dean maybe trying to Romeo and Juliet you. The night Dean died he may have intended for you both to die. I'm not saying Dean is behind it all. Its possible he thinks the only way to save the others is to kill you but he doesn't want to live without you so he intended for you both to die. I think as the story progresses we will need to stop all of them from killing each other. Maybe even your self at some point.
Yeah Echo is about the horror not the romance. That being said the horror is amazingly well done you should play all the routes each one exspands the lore around the town and it's secrets.
Content-wise, Cerberus is right. Whatever the patrons get, public gets a month later.
But I take feedback from the people only on the public builds too and tweak things constantly, so don't feel like your input is invalid just because you're an update behind.
Heheh. Anyone else try: (SPOILERS) The words from that list Hoss had? Most of them say Invalid... so do you think other characters are hiding things? Or do you think they were used in the past? Do you think they're for the future?
Not so much a fan group as one of the Patrons makes a port of it whenever a new build comes out. Because I don't personally handle the builds and check them I don't upload them here.
They're not always entirely bug free, but they are typically thrown up on the public update posts on Patreon.
Not everyone in your friendship circle by default is going to want to date you, or see you as a viable romantic interest, so Sal is a bit more slow burn in that regard. It'll happen, but maybe let him warm up to the idea first.
Lol I like him to and asked the same thing a wile back. I'm also a bit worried how Orlando will take it when it happens. A small part of me wishes you can enter a polygamous relationship with them both but I know that will probably never happen.
Lol I know but a guy can dream XD still hope Orlando takes it ok though :) Orlando is my favorite so far I'd hate to upset him even if it's in a different time line XD
...But really, it's a doable run. Just difficult until you can get Guts and Auto Item. Loki is a pain given it changes your item to a sword in the final phase so you lose your bow and associated skills, but it's possible!
Sort of. I don't build the mobile one but one of the fans does. As it's not something I have personally made, I don't feel it's appropriate for me to upload it here.
As far as officially supporting a mobile version, a lot of it will hinge on if the new UI can support it.
I like him at less I like him more then Hoss but I just don't like that the others ship you with him without really asking if you like him or not. If the others didn't do that I think I would like him more.
This game is just, wow. I wasn't expecting it being this great, although you have different cute characters to choose. We all know that the real deal is with Ty or Dean٩(♡ε♡ )۶
Fantstic game, and I loved the demo. I wasn't expecting all of what happened, and I can't wait to find out more. I feel like I've gone through the whole demo. I've found ten tidings of doom, which I think is all of them, and near all cgs. The only one I seem to be missing is Orlando's second one. Any help on how to find it would be appreciated. But seriously, the story is amazing, and I'm excited for more.
I got orlando second one saving him with his password, then not spying him that day. After you two talk on the vault, hoss appeared and orlando asks if u want to do something (not gonna spoil xD). I dont know what of the others choice matter to get it, i clicked on cherry pie, air element, cooked with him instead of sal...
I have a bug report relating to the a0.15 release. In the section of code where Oswin responds to your questions, there are several dialogue trees that never trigger because the KeywordCheck function is passed an array rather than a nested array. For instance, asking about Benson being creepy gives generic Benson dialogue instead of the dialogue specific to calling Benson creepy. A search in that section of code for ([" should help you to find instances of this bug.
Oswin interaction is a neat idea but I hope nothing you ask can acutely trigger anything I spent almost 2 hours trying to ask different things but only managed to get few things to actually work. I asked about the shovel under sals bed but never got anything that seems like something he would be able to look in to at less. I also wonder why hes only interested in me when there are others that have seen visions or so they say. Maybe that's a clue.
It can trigger a few things, but those triggers aren't miss-able. More that you can get them early for tweaked dialogue. Otherwise it's just a better way to get some questions answered without it being just a straight infodump or slog of exposition in case people aren't interested or have been paying attention.
Ok thanks for the info I did learn a few things but I never saved after just incase once the next update comes out I'll ask a few more and see if I can get anything new on top of what I alredy asked to see if I can get some of this stuff early. I was hoping to ask if he knows Orlando also had a vision. I like Orlando but I have to question why he seems to be the only other person with similar a experience... or perhaps he is just telling us this to gain our trust.
All bad endings currently in the game can be avoided. If your asking because you can't save a certen someone I will say there is one password so far that's not out right given to you like the others you will need to really think about what what's being said to you after the event. Do what I did and take notes of things others say. They may come in handy.
So i got to the ending of the demo with only 3 Passwords, now i am wondering. have i missed some important ones or are the other six(?) Passwords just from different Routes ?
But as a Chinese, limited by my poor English, it's a little difficult for me. I spent about an hour to go through tyson's route, and evnetually I got a bad end because i never ever knew the passwords. Thanks for the comments, i found several ways to get passwords. At the end i saved tyson and avioded the shooting, but it already took me many hours. Realizing i haven't got the HE yet, i played again, attempting to get all the codes but just on the first day, i spent many hours again without getting a right one. o(╥﹏╥)o
But, all in all, it's an amazing game with amazing stories and beautiful character sets. Love it so much. But i think my eagerness to get a HE must be put down for a long time. Who knows when will i bump into a right code in so many words.
Ah yes, this is a known error. Nothing wrong on your end, it's all on mine. It's been revolved in the next version already. Still, thanks for letting me know!
So I just started playing this in a while , what intrigued me the most is the "characters will die" , then red texts started to appear and it concerned me alot , but damn i didn't think it would happen right infront of my face. Dean's was so mean it was so heartbreaking. Love the VN so far~~~
There's normally someone else that ports an android version for patron and public builds if they have time. I'm not planning on officially supporting mobile builds until I fix a few issues with text input in how predictive text seems to mess with how it's coded. That plus there are some potential issues with the new UI that might make it hard.
That said I might be able to find an old mobile build if that's good enough? It just might not be of latest content.
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Well, clearly you haven't played alot VN's then. But I love this game aswell, though only because of Tyson. 🐺 (admittedly)
(spoiler) (last theory here than moving to discord to rant) wait, wait, wait, in the benson bad end it says Orlando and Sal went to visit Sal's sister but we later learn she's dead isn't that like super sus and we don't ever hear from them again did they pull a Roswell and go to the masion or something else? but then it made me realise dean knew too why didn't he think it suspicious? and now that I've revisited that conversation is so foreshadowy just like Deans really
That can mean they went to visit her grave or the place she died. we know this is something he doesn't want to talk about with just anyone. He spoke about his sister as if she was alive before he told MC as well. I don't think that's Sus I think that's just part of his grieving process.
yup already had it explained thanks though it is nice of you
Damn it just let me tell Orlando I wold rather him then Dean!!! I saved on the last Choice for Orlando I can't tell what Orlando needs right now, I feel like the more I try to get Close to him the more he pushes me to be with Dean (I'm really starting to hate Dean) but the second Choice doesn’t feel like it did any good. I just want Orlando to know I like him as more than a friend T.T why do you hate me Grizz!!
1) <3
2) Maybe there's a reason he's pushing you towards Dean
3) Maybe you'll get to tell Orlando soon. :3c
Dean's the one that kills you? ;P
Just a theory I had not long after I posted about that bad ending XD. No real evidence to back it up yet maybe In the next update. I look forward to seeing if I'm Correct.
I'm REALLY invested XD
Probably, Tysons bad ending dean acts odd and they say it looks like he was attacked by a bear and deans bad end is the only one that isn't caused by another. He just accidently forgot to wash his hands, all other bad ends are murder but not his.
Just some observations
I said this in a different comment I think but when dean dies he was trying to kill the MC. I think he was trying to do a murder suicide like thing. Remeber he tried to hand feed you with is poisoned hand. The reason the others die except for benson is because the MC was getting closer to them. I don't think he's the main villain in the story there's definitely something else going on. I think the MC will have to stop everyone from killing each other but they don't always know what there doing. The only reason I think this is because of the axe Sal finds in his room.
Sounds like some people haven't been paying attention in some of the other routes. :V
Come the next update you'll probably have a better idea on the presumed nature of how Dave 'dies'.
Noooooo!!!! Spoiler..... Argh i wanna play his route for the last part..... You cruel!!!
*Spoiler (major)* this is just a theory but Orlando put sacrifice and saw you hanging from a meat hook and Dean said he feels that you will need to hurt yourself one day to do the right thing perhaps the MC came to the conclusion or was forced into a position where that someone had to die or they all would, thus the sacrifice being the MC for his friends lives that still wouldn't explain the meat hook since there are other ways to KYS so perhaps the white ghost has some thing to do with it? Or Dean means emotionally hurt not physically like letting the love interest go or die? dont know whats some other thoughts?
I hope your wrong or at less I hope we can somehow avoid it. I already had one disappointing ending to a VN I really liked with in the last few months where you have no way to save the person you date. I'm still upset about it and I really hope they go back and give us a good ending at some point I don't even want to read any of their other VN because of this I just don't trust them anymore XD. My theory is that the meat hooks are in the Cabin I bet it’s a hunting cabin and the meat hooks are used to hang the animal as you clean and cut them up.
I'll tell you this much. This VN does have a good end planned where everyone survives including a romantic end for your husbando if you've opted for romance instead of just friendship.
Cause otherwise... yeah, spending a whole game without a clear 'good' ending when you're strung along to believe there should be is rough.
thank you much love X3
well yeah I expected that since the point of this game is kinda experience the bad to learn more and get to the good I was just thinking that you are going to sacrifice something and through that sacrifice you learn the truth and the way to save everyone perhaps a password or something else. on a side note Deans starting to worry me a bit he has a lot of foreshadowing in his route and I kind of had an epiphany with his death it said he died because of poison or similar and it wasnt deathcap since it takes ~6 days to die (Mycology book) so what if he found something that hut that was mentioned or a lab, where there are poisons stored he touched something there and forgot to wash his hands but the question if this is true why didn't he tell anyone perhaps he didn't think it mattered? or another case is it didn't seem to have anything dangerous with a brief look, sorry for ranting writing helps sort my thoughts
god I just realised how big this comment was and youre talking about Echo aren't you
No worries XD I actually have some suspicion for Dean myself. I think he may actually be the one killing people. Don't forget he did try to feed you with that unclean poison hand. Grizz did tell me there is a reason you are being pushed towards Dean. In Orlando's case I think Dean is trying to get Orlando to set you up with him. I think Dean is targetting the others because you are getting closer to them. Ty was killed by what looks like a wild bear Sal was receiving medicine from Dean. Dean is linked to at less one of these deaths and the other is a strange coincidence. I'm starting to think Dean maybe trying to Romeo and Juliet you. The night Dean died he may have intended for you both to die. I'm not saying Dean is behind it all. Its possible he thinks the only way to save the others is to kill you but he doesn't want to live without you so he intended for you both to die. I think as the story progresses we will need to stop all of them from killing each other. Maybe even your self at some point.
Was it echo? xD
yep it was Flynn's route I'm not playing the other Routes I don't trust them. XD
Yeah Echo is about the horror not the romance. That being said the horror is amazingly well done you should play all the routes each one exspands the lore around the town and it's secrets.
I'm not intrested in the other characters though also after the way it ended I don't want to put my self through that again.
Okay so I was just wondering if there is a difference content wise between the patreon version and the public version?
patreon is one update ahead but that's all really, other than patreons also getting some input on the project with their feed back
okay np,thankyou
Content-wise, Cerberus is right. Whatever the patrons get, public gets a month later.
But I take feedback from the people only on the public builds too and tweak things constantly, so don't feel like your input is invalid just because you're an update behind.
okay,thank you
This game is great!
But I am a Chinese, I can only speak a little basic English, and I translate by translator all the time (including now). qwq
Also, I seem to have found a bug
The third day and dean explore the mansion, and roswell dialogue name error
Machine translation...can read? awa
Heheh. Anyone else try: (SPOILERS) The words from that list Hoss had? Most of them say Invalid... so do you think other characters are hiding things? Or do you think they were used in the past? Do you think they're for the future?
managed to get all but two to work, so they are useful. two of them are useful for filling out the tidings of doom with benny
Hey everybody! Where can i find the android version of this? I heard about a fan group that created the android version.
Not so much a fan group as one of the Patrons makes a port of it whenever a new build comes out. Because I don't personally handle the builds and check them I don't upload them here.
They're not always entirely bug free, but they are typically thrown up on the public update posts on Patreon.
OMG,I like Tyson.But for real,I was totally scared by the self-voicing TWICE!!!(played in night close light press "space" to "v").I like this game.XD
Could someone tell me a link to the playthrough? Or even tell me the passwords, can't seem to find the passwords, thanks
Just pay attention to those words marked as red, you will find out what to type in the vault
that strategy won't work on Bensons death, or the bonus scenes on day 7 though
after tyson dies the ending will give you a clue about what to type into the vault
Will there be any romantic scenes with Sal? He doesn't seem interested in Dave, will it happen later on?
There will be, yes.
Not everyone in your friendship circle by default is going to want to date you, or see you as a viable romantic interest, so Sal is a bit more slow burn in that regard. It'll happen, but maybe let him warm up to the idea first.
Oh alright, that is true, I'm obsessed with him lmao
Lol I like him to and asked the same thing a wile back. I'm also a bit worried how Orlando will take it when it happens. A small part of me wishes you can enter a polygamous relationship with them both but I know that will probably never happen.
Given what happened between Sal and Orlando, I would've thought that option was off the table already. :P
Lol I know but a guy can dream XD still hope Orlando takes it ok though :) Orlando is my favorite so far I'd hate to upset him even if it's in a different time line XD
Seems like someone played Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth
Oh no! I've been found out!
...But really, it's a doable run. Just difficult until you can get Guts and Auto Item. Loki is a pain given it changes your item to a sword in the final phase so you lose your bow and associated skills, but it's possible!
Hey, there is there going to be a mobile version?
i think there is a Android one but only for patreon thats what someone else told me anyways
Sort of. I don't build the mobile one but one of the fans does. As it's not something I have personally made, I don't feel it's appropriate for me to upload it here.
As far as officially supporting a mobile version, a lot of it will hinge on if the new UI can support it.
someone has a walkthrough for the not so brilliant?
whose your favorite?
ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒ ᶅ ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mine its Ty
Tyson too, and then is Hoss.
But, "i'm not gonna get mushy and gay on you Dave"
hhhhha
Orlando, Sal, Ty I don't trust Hoss for some reason and the way everyone pushes you towards Dean kind of annoys me.
awww I like dave
*dean
I like him at less I like him more then Hoss but I just don't like that the others ship you with him without really asking if you like him or not. If the others didn't do that I think I would like him more.
Do you mean Dean? Dave is who you play as.
oooops yeah
This game is just, wow. I wasn't expecting it being this great, although you have different cute characters to choose. We all know that the real deal is with Ty or Dean٩(♡ε♡ )۶
i began freaking out cause i wasn't able to save Benson, then i started writing random words and i got the right one (▀̿̿Ĺ̯̿▀̿ ̿)
(/◕ヮ◕)/
s a m e
Fantstic game, and I loved the demo. I wasn't expecting all of what happened, and I can't wait to find out more. I feel like I've gone through the whole demo. I've found ten tidings of doom, which I think is all of them, and near all cgs. The only one I seem to be missing is Orlando's second one. Any help on how to find it would be appreciated. But seriously, the story is amazing, and I'm excited for more.
I got orlando second one saving him with his password, then not spying him that day. After you two talk on the vault, hoss appeared and orlando asks if u want to do something (not gonna spoil xD). I dont know what of the others choice matter to get it, i clicked on cherry pie, air element, cooked with him instead of sal...
I have a bug report relating to the a0.15 release. In the section of code where Oswin responds to your questions, there are several dialogue trees that never trigger because the KeywordCheck function is passed an array rather than a nested array. For instance, asking about Benson being creepy gives generic Benson dialogue instead of the dialogue specific to calling Benson creepy. A search in that section of code for ([" should help you to find instances of this bug.
Good find! I'll patch it in for the next build and make sure there aren't any others I've missed.
Oswin interaction is a neat idea but I hope nothing you ask can acutely trigger anything I spent almost 2 hours trying to ask different things but only managed to get few things to actually work. I asked about the shovel under sals bed but never got anything that seems like something he would be able to look in to at less. I also wonder why hes only interested in me when there are others that have seen visions or so they say. Maybe that's a clue.
It can trigger a few things, but those triggers aren't miss-able. More that you can get them early for tweaked dialogue. Otherwise it's just a better way to get some questions answered without it being just a straight infodump or slog of exposition in case people aren't interested or have been paying attention.
Ok thanks for the info I did learn a few things but I never saved after just incase once the next update comes out I'll ask a few more and see if I can get anything new on top of what I alredy asked to see if I can get some of this stuff early. I was hoping to ask if he knows Orlando also had a vision. I like Orlando but I have to question why he seems to be the only other person with similar a experience... or perhaps he is just telling us this to gain our trust.
is there a good ending ?
If you, by chance, are asking if there's any completed routes, I'm afraid not.
All bad endings currently in the game can be avoided. If your asking because you can't save a certen someone I will say there is one password so far that's not out right given to you like the others you will need to really think about what what's being said to you after the event. Do what I did and take notes of things others say. They may come in handy.
"was that a jojo reference?"
yes and it was epic
Can someone help me to get clues from Oswin when we can ask him questions please ?
Think of all the stuff that seemed out of place for a normal house hold or that got you curious.
There's another password in the ending you get after putting in the password you found.
When do I put it in?
o nvm I found it °³°
So i got to the ending of the demo with only 3 Passwords, now i am wondering. have i missed some important ones or are the other six(?) Passwords just from different Routes ?
each route has their own password with only one being the same in each route
the second two passwords are the same
how to stop orlando from dyin
follow the bad end all the way through and find a word that seems important and use that as the password the day before he dies
nvm found how to do it thx
Potentially. A lot of it hinges on if the UI supports it.
Love this game!
But as a Chinese, limited by my poor English, it's a little difficult for me. I spent about an hour to go through tyson's route, and evnetually I got a bad end because i never ever knew the passwords. Thanks for the comments, i found several ways to get passwords. At the end i saved tyson and avioded the shooting, but it already took me many hours. Realizing i haven't got the HE yet, i played again, attempting to get all the codes but just on the first day, i spent many hours again without getting a right one. o(╥﹏╥)o
But, all in all, it's an amazing game with amazing stories and beautiful character sets. Love it so much. But i think my eagerness to get a HE must be put down for a long time. Who knows when will i bump into a right code in so many words.
Oh, and thanks for the game and your hardwork!
Alright, after getting used to the game, I found it's not that difficult to find the passwords_(:з」∠)_
What's the hospital talk? Someone mentioned it to me but i can't find it.
It's in one of the bad endings.
Thank you
why is there missin images for the characters it says image not found help :
It could be a bug. If you send me a screenshot I'll be able to check for you.
Ah yes, this is a known error. Nothing wrong on your end, it's all on mine. It's been revolved in the next version already. Still, thanks for letting me know!
I was wondering why i keep getting the Benson bad end. I have all the passwords but they all lead there. Could i get some help please
Pay attention to words that get repeated or gets more attention than others on the bad end itself.
It should be fairly easy to find.
Thanks
So I just started playing this in a while , what intrigued me the most is the "characters will die" , then red texts started to appear and it concerned me alot , but damn i didn't think it would happen right infront of my face. Dean's was so mean it was so heartbreaking. Love the VN so far~~~
wats the second password for rosswell dean n tyson
No second password for most of those characters as far as I am aware.
how to not get the benson bad end
Check the bad end itself, you'll find it stands out a little.
So, just to be sure, no actual update?
No a0.14, but a0.15 comes out in 2 weeks. (Which is 2 weeks earlier than normal)
Welp still worth the wait, love this VN~
sorry about ver.14 I hope development get a bit more smooth
where is going update password a0.14 going to release date ???
2 weeks from now... as stated by the latest post.
Umm..Grizz Can You Make An Andriod Version
There's normally someone else that ports an android version for patron and public builds if they have time. I'm not planning on officially supporting mobile builds until I fix a few issues with text input in how predictive text seems to mess with how it's coded. That plus there are some potential issues with the new UI that might make it hard.
That said I might be able to find an old mobile build if that's good enough? It just might not be of latest content.
I Undertand Must Be Hard To Edit But I Watch One Youtuber That Played Your Game And The Game Was Awsome And I Hope You Fix All The Bug And Keep It Up ;D
Did you just say...... new UI?
Yeah! When it's a bit closer to being ready I'll share a screenshot of it, but have to make it pretty at some point, right?
SWEET!
boo only one password. i have 8 password but i miss one pls help? i don't know where i miss
which one do you need?
i have the passwords fors save tyson olshem orlando sal hoss dean benson
if you're still having trouble withe roswell look at the CG itself the word is quite prominent