The scene with Dave hallucinating, thinking he was seeing his dad, when it was actually Tyson made me so happy, but I knew in the same exact moment what it meant was going to happen, and that reduced me to tears. It's officially the first time since I started reading the VN that I've done more than just tearing up a little.
This leads into the second thing I wanted to say. I'd known it for the last SEVERAL updates, and had been waiting patiently for confirmation of it... I knew Roswell was Thanatos' master. There were several things about Roswell that, throughout the story so far, felt strange to me and led to my belief of it.
The fact that Roswell had a condition where he knew he was going to die was one. My guess? He created Thanatos to use what time he still had to help secure answers for Dave's questions about what happened to his dad. After all, if he could keep going back in time, by means of both the vault and Thanatos, maybe he could bring Dave some kind of closure he never got? What better way to use the time you have left than to help a friend with the deepest wound in his heart? Bringing him to the mansion, where he had Thanatos waiting, made sense.
Similarly, but aside from the above point, there was the slowly growing connection between Roswell and Oswin. It went from "Oh, we don't know eachother", with it even being said when you initially question Oswin, to the photo with that message "I love you" that Oswin wanted Dave to give him. I don't know this to be factual (and heck, it probably isn't) but my personal thought is that Oswin was left in charge of Thanatos while Roswell wasn't there, with knowledge that he was coming back because he'd been through it before. And the picture he gives Dave that he asks Roswell to pass along, with the "I love you" message, was meant as a way to say he still cares even despite the fact he's being repeatedly put through this many times. The picture itself told me Roswell was more a part of things than Dave had been led to believe up to that point too.
The biggest clue for me though was Roswell knowing (in what was the path B timeline if I remember right) that Thanatos had baited Dave with the intention to knock him out after he'd handed over the medal. Yes, Thanatos could have just TOLD him that, but given how unhelpful Thanatos had been through the whole story, it seems more likely that Thanatos, at that point in time, was intent on just trying to get to the bottom of things his way, against Roswell's wishes, and Roswell was trying to put a stop to it, but fell short of being able to.
I openly admit a lot of what I've just said sounded a lot better in my head than it did trying to type it out and explain it, but it's around 3:30 in the morning as I'm typing this.
The TL:DR version of it is, for the past three or four updates now, I had figured out Roswell was Thanatos' master, simply because several things about the story left me focused on him during the last few updates, and, the more I did, the more sense it made. Despite knowing now that Roswell is Thanatos' master though, it doesn't make me hate that rat any less. I say this somewhat jokingly, but a part of me is annoyed with Roswell for creating Thanatos with as much of an attitude as he has.
The only other thing that worries me about knowing Roswell is Thanatos' master is the fact that I think I also know why the deaths keep happening too... I don't have a solid answer for that just yet though. Interestingly enough, Dave dying leads to what will tell me whether or not my thought process is correct or not. Especially now that I know Thanatos belongs to Roswell.
Keeping Dave and the rest alive always fails because of the traitor among them. And both Roswell and Thanatos knew this. They can't do anything as long as the traitor among them is hidden. I played the DEAN Route first and there was one very disturbing vision when Dave was bleeding running through the Wood (day24) but Dean (while holding a gun!) found him, saying prett coldly something like: So it's you. Instead of "I finally found you!"
On the real Day24 Dave experienced two vision of his Dad while bleeding: The second was obvisoiuly Tyson. The first Dad-version however walked away too fast for Dave to keep up, meaning the first Dad Illusion was potentially Dean who found Dave first but abandended him because he was part of Memphis gang. I also suspected Dean being the potential murderer of Berson because Dean is left-handed. If Dean is the traitor, it also makes somewhat sense for Roswell to kill Dean on Day6; not only to trigger Dave's capabilities but also potentially killing a traitor , if Dave fails with his first password. Basicly a WIN or "at least the traitor is dead" situation. What speaks against Dean being the traitor is Thanatos behaviour towards him. "Keeping his options open".
Well i played a few other routes and the patreon version.... so
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I turns out the MASTER was indeed Roswell and he was behind the murder on day 6 and Benson. Benson let Roswell kill him to save his friends. Pretty obvious in hinsight as Benson is an assasine who cannot be killed by a bunch of halfgrownups except he allowed any of them to murder him. Route A; Also the group agreed to send Dean into the woods (with Oswin) instead of Dave or Roswell. So aside from the sus vision with Dave and Dean (who is holding a gun) in the woods, there is no more evidence towards my traitor theory. Even more disproven; Dean always dies if you fail the password on day 10...
I normally don't leave comments, but this story is too good not to leave one. Sincerely wow....just.....wow! This new update hit the feels like no other and I can't wait to see what the next update brings!
Also SPOILERS so please do not click on the view more button if you don't want to be spoiled. You've been warned.
There are so many questions now lmao. I'm sure everyone is now thinking : Is Dave now actually dead? What happens now? I mean cuz the way it was shown really made it look like Dave was dead. But if the memory of the house burning is still going to happen, then shouldn't Dave still be alive?
But one thing I am curious about if the outcome is invetible or of it can actually be avoided after experiencing it for the first time like on Day 11 with Oswin after he injects Dave . I've tried a few times so I kinda doubt it now but it's a thought I just wanted to throw out there.
Anyway, freaking excellent job with this Grizz. You've taken my breath away with this. Keep up your amazing work and I hope your planning on making more VNs in the future after Password is finished. Your work is just that good.
I- Spoilers i guess, day 24 do not enter unless you wanna ruin everything for yourself :p
Btw I love everything, thanks Grizz!
I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE I- I WASN'T EXPECTING IT AND OH GOD WHAT NOW??? I'M NOT- THEN?
So path "A" it's the good one? but then- we won't get other days? it ends on day 24? Do we see what's next from someone else's point of view? maybe the one that we choose or the "master"?
I'm not sure and I can't wait until next month I- It felt like the first time I saw someone dying in the vn (It was Dean, I used to love him), it was devastating
I don't know what to say anymore, this is great Password has won the first place in MY favorite vns, I still have a lot to experience but for now, I have to say I love everything! Well... I got scared with David's new sprite like I saw it as a corpse, without color and as a ghost, but then saw him change position and everything was "better"
! (KINDA?) HUGE SPOILERS FOR DAY 24 PATH A OF THE NEW UPDATE (They're subtle so not EXACTLY HUGE spoilers but still, a warning regardless). PLEASE DO NOT CLICK UNLESS YOU'VE PLAYED THE NEW PUBLIC BUILD UPDATE. !
So, it really is HIM, huh?...
I don't want to say anything, but that felt a little too obvious... Def heartbreaking update anyways, this is by far one of my favs because it just- portrays the whole thing so well?
I swear to God Grizz,if anything happens to Dave there will be bloodshed 😂
Jokes aside this is probably one of the best VNs I have read so far, the story and characters stick to me so well and I fear for their well being often XD.
Also I've noticed alot talking about different Paths as well such as A, F, G or whatever and I'm not entirely sure on what this means since I had just finished Path A of Sal and Dean's route. If someone can enlighten me on this I'd really appreciate that.
Keep up your excellent work Grizz, so far this VN has been an amazing read 😊
Tiny bit spoiler I realized aka, it's just me doing another blah blah XD and I haven't played the new update, this is my thoughts about the whole game so far leading up to the update for Day 22
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1. The story of the Three Little Pigs might just be a red herring, but I found something interesting. The first pig dies from sickness and something about a rabbit giving the pig chocolate. The second doesn't die but turns into the rabbit. The third survives. Sounds familiar? Now if you replay the game, keep the story in mind, and compare it to the order of character deaths, events, and endings too if there's an order, is Roswell meant to resemble the first pig? You'll know what I mean if you got far enough. Is Sal supposed to be the second one? Given one of the bad endings, he did join Orlando's father to save Dave. And finally, is Dave the last pig in the story? I'll tell you why in a few.
2. After playing through the game multiple times, I just noticed the Path G which took me by surprise because all I know that there are only these paths; Path A, B, C, D, E and F. Each with different outcomes depends on the route you take Who you pick for the Medal Hunt and your choices are, like Florencia said.
3. Here we go, the reason why I think The Three Little Pigs story is a reference to the characters I mentioned above, especially Dave is because of Path G. The ending of Path G surprised me by the way, it seems like Florencia had already met Dave before, he even felt like they had, and like those past memories that Dave lived through, they really had met before and even Dave's dad knows her, but. Like Reginald would say, not in this timeline.
4.Here's what I think. David's father, Roswell, Dean, Hoss, Sal, Tyson, Orlando, Benson, Oswin, possibly Thanatos too and the rest of the cast. This is how the order of deaths happened and I'm not talking about just their main deaths before you figure out the password for each character. At least that's how I think, I know there's probably not an order but the patterns are plain to see did you've played it for like, ten times.
5.Dave being the only one who is remembering ever death and past memory, he's the first important one, and Roswell somehow getting roped into all this meaning he could be the second life that Thanatos's master wants to save. Sal could be that too, based on his backstory alone. It can't be Tyson because, well, he's just Ty. No offense to the Tyson lovers. Dean, Hoss and Orlando is a variable, even though Orlando has access to the Vault. Hoss has already been to the mansion and I think he's hiding something, especially when he know now that the set he went to was apparently some sort of recruitment thing, but Sal had met Memphis before and he probably just sent him there to investigate that place, and then Dean. Thanatos literally went to Dean "just in case", is it also possible that he could be the second one that needs to be saved?
6.Who is Thanatos's Master? We can rule out a few, that being Benson and Tyson. Which leaves the possible ones, Oswin is the first on my list because the game wanted to be obvious at first but we soon learn that it isn't the case, Dean because, I have a feeling it could be him but he doesn't remember? It's not possible tbh. It could be in a different timeline for all we know. Hoss is, well, he's one that I don't expect for at all. I'm not too sure about Sal because he literally was manipulated, by Hypnos, and who is/was Hypnos? Yeah, it was Thanatos's first name. Orlando has a lot of knowledge about games, and it being some sort of murder mystery in a mansion, maybe it could be him? But there's not much hints to know if it was him. Then Roswell, he's already on the thread and he could die at any moment but I have a feeling that he knows more, and he's more secretive than Hoss and Tyson. And we can't say it's Florencia too, you'll know why if you read it. My final guess that it could be... Dave? Once he starts to remember, and all leading back to the past. He was meant to die, and then that started a lot of chain events, much like what is happening after you[Dave] solved the first death in the game. Then the events happen slowly until you reach Day 17.
Umm yeah there's a lot I talked about and I'm pretty much as confused about it myself. I already memorized all the passwords of the game so it already triggers when it's time to put one on the Vault lol.
So... I'm in the process of actually going through and getting caught up on all routes with all six characters because I was bored and wanted something to do today. Something I hadn't bothered with aside from Tyson and Orlando up to now, due to me not having wanted to repeatedly go through the story over and over, and I appear to have hit a snag.
I'm currently trying to get through Sal's different routes, but, even though I'm doing what I'm supposed to with them, Routes C and D keep getting redirected back to Route A. I save once I have the path set, but a few days later, I save again and the save shows I'm back on Path A. Same occurs for me trying to play Path D.
Similar to how Paths F and G are unobtainable for Tyson, are Paths C and D unobtainable for Sal?
How many words can you use to ask or interact with the owner of the house? So far I found 12 words, with 2 pairs of different words but have the same dialogue and 1 word if repeated gives a different dialogue than the first time you use it. I just wanna let on what I know because maybe I left some words out because it might impact some parts of the story and dialogue otw, and maybe gib me a hint about the amount of words in total ehe
Oh, thank god. I'm not crazy. LOL. I remember seeing a google Doc a LOOOONG time ago that had a list of questions you could ask Oswin, but I could never find it. This appears to be a different document entirely but I'm asuming it's referring to the old document.
So, I have a bit of a theory to posit. It's about Dean.
But, something that might at least be entertaining to think about. It involves Dean being more than he appears to be, but a more positive spin on it versus the "Dean is secretly villain" theories I always see pop up.
Though, fair warning it's the definition of a crackpot theory so take none of this too seriously. Also, some story spoilers for various routes/paths/endings.
Simply put, Dean is from a rival family in opposition to Memphis' mafia. It's mentioned during his bad ending that he comes from a massive family of bears. What if that's a separate mafia family? David, knowing he's about to die calls in a favor to Dean's family. Mama bear agrees and after David's death, sends one of her sons to watch after Dave. He comes into Dave's life not long after David dies, in a way similar to a romance movie. What if that was planned? The reason he acts the way he does in the beginning of his route? He's simply playing the role of the Casanova he feels he's supposed to. Notice that the act drops around day 10 when he realizes just how fragile Dave's mental state is and that the flirty thing wasn't what Dave needed. This is also when he starts developing deeper feelings for Dave.
On Tyson and Orlando's route, he handles the date and breakup well. Realizing that Dave's feelings were elsewhere and maybe it's for the best in terms of Dave being happy. He's blindsided on the other three though, his mission is in jeopardy at that point and he'd started to have feelings for Dave.
Dean is far from the flirty, dumb, himbo people treat him as. He's smart, cunning, and capable with maybe the highest skillset in the group. He's calm under the stressful situations we've seen him in (path F and G) with C and D obviously lacking data. He's shown handling Oswin's revolver in the title art and chooses the close quarters fire axe as his weapon of choice in path F and G, so he can apparently fight. He never really directly involves himself in the group planning sessions, choosing to stay back and observe mainly. Look how often he's keeping watch over the group in the background. Think back to his behavior during some of the bad endings. In Roswell's, look how quickly he wants to get Dave away from that situation. The only ending he doesn't in some way stay with Dave is Roswell's (and his own of course) where Dave is under Tyson's care and they both leave the area, away from Memphis' influence.
For this, I'd include Dom as potentially being from the same "family", but undercover. The sheer fact a "Bad Ending: Dom" exists, means the guy has a good ending somehow.
So, after playing the new update, I have some... Thoughts.
POSSIBLE SPOILERS? VIEW AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Where did the new sprites come from? (David's and Jack's).
A pretty big surprise indeed.
Does this mean we're going to get all the characters in this artstyle soon? While I don't dislike the artstyle, I still dunno how to feel about it. I do like it a bit, but I'm not too sure if it fits the game a lot.
This also brings up a question I wanted to ask Grizz for a long time.
Why are the side characters the ones with different eye colors and poses? Iirc, all Dave's friends' sprites have a "default pose" and black eyes. I may be thinking about it too much, but it was always weird how the side characters had more developed sprites than the main characters'.
This new build gives me a lot of hope, though. The story is coming to an end, and I am definitely excited for it. I actually also am quite intrigued by how the rest of the cast will look like with this new style.
They've been getting reworked in the background. These are really old examples back from day 8 or before, the newer ones are on discord and i dont go there.
In that post you can see Dean and Roswell's new look and early sketches of the others. (Though each of them have progressed a lot since then, pretty sure Tyson is finished and the others as well by this point). All the guys will have eye color, various poses and expressions. The new title screens and recent cgs show off their final designs pretty well also.
And honestly, I think it'll just be an adjustment since we're used to the way the characters look after all this time. But I like the newer ones more at this point. Tyson for example isn't as wide as Dean or so fluffy now which fits how he's described in game better. Thin, unapproachable, and scruffy.
This was an easy-ish one to write if only because ultimately the update itself isn't all that big. Almost all of it is set-up for next build which... Well, you'll get an idea once you're playing likely. Expect a few revelations and some reveals but the next update is going to have more.
Just played the game. and I guess I'll leave the review(Only played Tyson route for now) Warning : This contain spoiler and a lot of personal opinion.
At first for inserting name, I thought it for mc name so I just put the first character that mc interact with , just to mess around and PFFTTTT, I love that interaction, I happen to repeat to input any characters name that appear until Liam and Betson which don't really give any special interaction, kinda sad but still NICE easter egg. I happen to pick Dean first because well, he's look better with mc compare to other and then Tyson come up , CHANGE SHIP WE GOING TYSON ROUTE , I mean the mc bring him and u gonna leave him alone? HELL NAH. I like how u make him stay in character and change him slowly, like how he's... *cough"* dumdum but caring a lot, does he's a tsundere type? H M M, anyway when It start pathing to path c(Because I don't know the pass yet), I think huh 2 characters dead but not Tyson, I save the game before the vault insert and after the 'incident', I happen to unlock the vault and go to path A, but I going back to path C, with in mind planning to get BAD ENDING but with Tyson Alive only #OnlyTyson , and oh man I regret it so much. Back to path A we go, when the questioning Oswin happen, I couldn't ask anything, I guess I'm too dumb, been writing a lot and man, it not working, hell I also ask "Theodore" but well I guess it doesn't matter. The whole backstory with mc,dad, and Tyson is heartwarming, I kinda want a full backstory mode with them only, just to feel more heartbreaking knowing the result what gonna happen *cry*. I also love how mc just anxious about the whole thing like in day 6 will happen again which is well, it totally not easy to forget, also love how it go back to the question Hoss/Tyson which is I think quite nice, and the whole pie thingy. It make ya feel the choice u made have impact even tho not much I believe. I guess that all I gonna say related to Tyson route, now talking about other. I seen a Liam sprites and why he have sprites when he contribute like almost nothing? also Oswin, Betson, and Orlando's dad sprites look different compare to other, I mean other are just looking at ya with half legs gone, and they appear to have full sprites which is not consistent(Also it make Betson look smaller compare to other, IDK if he really small compare to other characters). Also the whole CG, I seen the early days it have colors and the latest days is... colorless, Personally I don't mind about it, Hell I prefer the colorless CG, just preference. Curious what's actually happen because of the inconsistent. Other thing I wanna mention. the ost remind me of minecraft not sure why. Overall I think very good game. Not expecting this much content. Side talk, long time ago I wanted to play this game but change mind because I scared if I'm too dumb to realize what the password are from reading the comment, but it actually not that hard when we actually pay attention at the time the incident will happen. Also.... where auto button? and also where I could buy the keychain? I wanted to buy the Tyson one If I have enough money. That's all my overall review for now. Hope the creator could answer some of my questions. Wish u the best Creator.
The Visual novels going to have an update where all the sprites get updated, its been in the works for a while which is why the newer sprites look different. The CGs being sketches was a patreon voted thing, the full colour ones would take longer so it was voted to do sketches and then finished later on.
Liam gets a sprite because he's a certain tier of patron. Like the other custom sprites that'll be added over time as well.
Auto button will also be added back in eventually. It was removed as it was voted for the most part unused and the screen real-estate was already tight.
Will we ever get Password unused content? Just for pure curiosity, one day I'd like to find out more about the game and some scrapped ideas. Of course, I am not saying like, now, but it's definitely something that interests me.
1. Don't share passwords. 2. There was no plan to retain that after full release as it was for testing. There is nothing prior to that as it wasn't intended for the public to have it in the first place.
I was wondering if anyone has made a compilation of all the information we have so far about the game?
I mentioned in a previous comment I was writing a fanfic for myself and I like to do things that make it as realistic as possible, and I wanted to make a compilation in text form of all the information we have to help myself before continuing;
(By compilation of information I mean general character profiles, description of characters deaths, profile of killers, timeline of events, things like that)
I should also say that I like organizing, so it actually feels good to organize everything, but also... It would too feel quite the waste of time to find out in the end that someone already made it or is making? So... Does anyone know?
If the answer is no one made or is making I might do it myself, though I have no idea how long that would take
(If someone did make one already please tell me where I can read it )/
If they had, it'd be news to me. I was considering for a while to create a wikia but the problem you run into is how people edit it and how spoiler free you can keep it. (Or really who draws the line where for spoilers)
The best you'd get is asking in the spoiler channels on the discord server given a few people have done their breakdowns but given I haven't 100% confirmed or denied anything as far as documents submitted by fans, it's still mostly guesswork.
I guess I'll do it myself then, I also checked the discord server and there were some useful information there (Along with some questionable comments-..)
I'll take care in separating the facts from my own speculations, the main reason I'll doing this is to compile information and not theorize after all; thank you for answering!
No probs! Poke me on the server if you're unsure of something and I'll point you in the right direction if it's in-game, or tell you if someone's made a wrong assumption somewhere.
I'm currently writing it, and even though I don't plan on writing everything word by word, there's still a lot of information to gather; so it might take a while. As I said before I'm not sure how much time it might take
Also just to vent a bit, but I never realized how suspicious some of the lines are until I started transcribing them-.. I wonder what exactly I'm going to find out as I progress? Only time will tell
I've had my theory on the murderer behind this whole thing for a while, and the most recent update that was done has me more heavily leaning toward one character of the three that I thought the murderer could be. There's so much going on that I've found myself replaying routes multiple times to see if I spot anything that would give me cause to believe I was either right or wrong, but yeah, I'd definitely be interested in seeing what info you end up putting together.
I read a comment saying that you need go through path A, and then not use the password on day 17, and that Tyson's route doesn't work.
I tried this on Roswells' and Orlando's route, but it didn't work-... I believe this one and G are the only paths I haven't gone through yet and from pieces I read in comments it seems to be so different; so it feels like I'm missing something really important
Do I have to, like... Get absolutely no affection with Tyson during the route? Help?
A branches to F if you fail the password on Day 17, B branches to G if the same. Given Tyson auto-clears the Day 17 password for plot reasons, any other character should do.
Given there are no other checks, I'd be curious to know what issue you're hitting given by that stage the game kind of falls apart logically with who should be dead otherwise.
On my first playthrough I got the password right on first few attempts, but I got curious to what would happen if I got it wrong so I went back; but nothing actually happened so at the time I just assumed that Thanatos was lying or something?
I did see the scene of Tyson killing Orly by failing the password though, but it only worked for me on the paths where I reveal Oswin.
I wondering if it's a bug and perhaps I should reinstall the game..
It sounds like a bug. Failing the password auto-boots you to F and G unless you're on Tyson's route. You CAN put the password in on Tyson's route and see the password scene as well, which changes some dialogue but it's already auto-solved.
Skips as in... The game doesn't give you an opportunity to put a password that day? For me Thanatos still guides Dave to the vault the same way of the other routes
You can still use the password on Tyson's route for day 17. The investigation will happen and you get the prompt to enter a password like would happen with any other route. You can get the CG and everything.
The difference is, when the other routes shift into F or G at the end of day 19, Tyson's won't. By being on his route, even if you get the password wrong, Dave will stop anything bad from happening naturally through the story. You're pretty much dealing with the problem directly since he's your partner whereas you ignore him on the other routes. Affection level doesn't matter either, that has no impact on the main story (so be nice to him).
Really all it should take to be on path F or G is not use the password on day 17 and be on anyone but Tyson's route. You're technically on F/G the moment the password isn't entered, but the game will show as A/B until day 20. Since, ya know, Dave doesn't find out until then that he's on a bad timeline.
My Roswell Theory" Obvious spoilers, dummy! I also made an Orlando Theory not too below. You can check it out if you'd like, I don't know.
Now that those pesky people that haven't finished the game yet have left, WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH YOU ROSWELL!!! YOU KILLED BENSON!!! WAAAAH!
Now, let's get to this theory that was purely fueled by my anger towards that gremlin.
Why he's a prime suspect? Well, given the fact that his health was deteriorating, I'd say he's probably a one-time tool for Memphis. Memphis wanted the vault. Didn't it occur to you that Roswell somehow hosted this vacation exactly where Oswin lives? That can't be a coincidence. Moreso, I think Memphis and Roswell (or by extent, his family) have arranged a deal.
AFAIR, the thing that is hiding inside the Vault is Oswin's failed work, a magical syringe that can cure anything possible (again, AFAIR). So, given that Roswell had some brain cancer, it would make sense that Roswell would team up with Memphis. After all, Memphis was only interested with the "time travel" mumbo-jumbo of the Vault. It's a fair trade for both parties!
Now let's see about Roswell's death in the 1st Password. His head is open wide by blunt force... by a book. Weird. But it's also another odd one out of the bunch. Hoss was killed by (what seems to be) Jack's hunting knife, the same knife that killed Oswin in B & G. Dean was poisoned by not washing hands (or Orlando poisoned him), Sal was locked inside a freezer (although I'm sure this was Hypnos/Thanatos' fault), and Tyson was ravaged by an animal of some sorts (Probably Dom's doings since Dean DID say it was probably a bear, and Dom is the only bear we have seen so far other than that bus driver Liam).
The reason why I brought up Roswell's death is because it was definitely inflicted by Oswin or Benson. Sure, Oswin did deny killing Roswell by saying he was in the lab all day, and later said he was hiding behind the shelves, but you seriously trust him 100%? Nah. Oswin is a dirty man himself (still gives me chills with the Thanatos reveal in the good timelines). It's possible that Oswin somehow knew of Roswell's head condition. He DID have possession of a robot that literally has access to every single dialogue of them in the known multi-verse. What's there to say that Oswin asked Thanatos anything about Roswell.
I don't really know what Oswin would do with Roswell's brain. To be frank, I'm not even sure if he did take Roswell's brain. But that's not important. We'll be talking about Roswin. And no, this is not a ship (maybe). Memphis and Oswin has talked in the past before. Maybe SOMEHOW Memphis knew about Oswin's desire to care for children. And sure after that disastrous trial where he killed ~100 children, Oswin was plainly ruined and vowed himself unfit for nurturing kids. Well, who else is a prime pick other than Roswell? Sure, both are boars which gains sympathy points, but that's the perfect way for Memphis to sneak in a mole. A mole Oswin would probably least suspect.
Now let's go to the point where I'm SUPER pissed. Benson's death in F. Roswell stated that Benson pulled a gun at him and fired, causing Roswell to shoot back and kill Benson. Dean literally said that Roswell couldn't have gotten a gun... UNLESS he stole it from Jack's corpse. Roswell was the only one that inspected the corpse (ISTG Dave if you only checked it yourself...) and who's to say he hid a gun from Dave and only revealed the remote detonator. And about the 2 gunshots the gang heard, who's to say Roswell's 1st shot killed Benson, then he fired another shot to his direction just to stage Benson's sudden urge to kill him. Roswell definitely did this because now that Jack was gone, Memphis was gonna have a hard time getting in with Benson still alive. And with Oswin PRESUMABLY being deceased during this time, it was a perfect opportunity when him and Benson were alone.
EDIT: Foolhardy for me to instantly cook up this theory without even going through the Interrogation. But Roswell is just too smart for this. He's answering so badly that Hoss found out. Sure you can say it's the brain cancer but I don't think that's the case. Sure it gave Roswell colds, fevers, harsh breathings, but I doubt that's the reason why his intellect decreased to the point of not answering straight and saying an "I don't know" when asked how Benson missed his shot. Not going to be fat shaming, but in a dialogue in Tyson's route when he was about to leave Dave behind, he described Roswell and Orlando as "two lard-asses" meaning they're... big-boned... yeah. So you'd think a target like that, Benson would miss? He literally shot Jack, which I'd presume is slim AND fast. If Roswell WAS just dilly-dallying and looking for some C4, you'd think Benson just killed him there and then? NOPE. Roswell is suspicious. __________________________________________________________________ Well that's all! I literally just came up this theory today, while typing (also did the same method with the Orlando Route). I find it hilarious I immediately made a Roswell Theory because he killed Benson, it's probably because I just find Benson so reassuring.
You may want to re-examine those deaths you mentioned. Your memory of the crime scenes isn't accurate, mostly in the murder weapon but in an auxiliary manner the method of execution.
But let's talk about guns. There's a bigger problem with what you put forward about Path F.
We know Jack's method of violence is a knife. He's never had a gun, so to that end Roswell can't have picked one off his body assuming we're playing fair. Which then leads us with a problem of where Roswell got the gun. Mostly because we know that Oswin's gun was handed off to Sal before Jack's arrival, and Benson has his own.
Because we (as Dave) haven't seen the state of the room where Benson fell, we only have one testimony to go off. But I'm sure you can already see the problem in what was reported based on what we know of the weapons in play on that day already.
Eep, sorry about that misconception about Roswell's murder, I'll probably do a marathon run of Password again XD.
Well to be fair I'm kind of stumped. If there's 2 guns in the manor, then dang how did Roswell even get a gun to shoot Benson? Roswell said he "found it". And to be fair we (As Dave) has yet to see the crime scene.
Or idk, maybe Jack somehow had one for safety measures? I know he's a knife person, but when you're in a mission like invading a giant ass mansion housing a butler which is the biggest threat with guns? Yeah... i'll admit, this point is kind of weak...
But one thing's for sure, Roswell is just too suspicious. It's just raising too many red flags. As Dean (or the one that went up to investigate the gunshot, I forgot :((( ) said, Roswell had a gun when literally the only 2 known guns were with Sal and Benson. Does this mean Roswell had a gun all along? Possible. After all, I AM condemning Roswell as the secret killer right now. It's possible. And with the fact he was lying about it is just too suspicious, is it not?
Also I dug deeper during the interrogation. About where Roswell was during Day 17 (W-----L-) was happening. During those times when Dave was asking Tyson and Orlando, Roswell was somehow always in the foyer, seemingly watching Dave just go down the Vault. Maybe trying to figure out the pieces. He probably figured out that Tyson and Orlando are marked for death, y'know, them just yelling upstairs and shit, and Dave just frantically asking both of them. So when Dave failed this day's PW, Roswell hatched a plan for Tyson to get super pissed at Orlando, as well as finding a way for Jack to sneak in and kill Oswin.
It just aligns too perfectly as well. Tyson, having killed Orlando, will definitely look bad on him especially when everyone sees it. Knowing that Benson would shoot down anything that is a threat (just like with Jack in The Chase, but effin' missed), Benson would definitely shoot a ballistic werewolf that just murdered without reason. When everyone was outside witnessing Tyson covered in dragon blood, it was a golden opportunity for Roswell to let Jack in and end Oswin. This will obviously lead Benson in a sorry state. But sadly this didn't really make Benson tired.
And so when Jack returned to avenge Dom, he died to Benson's gunman skills. Roswell definitely thought "Fuck, how will Memphis get here if Benson still exists?" And so that's why Benson died. Roswell decided to pull out his gun and shoot the unsuspecting otter. This would give Memphis more of a chance to fight. ______________________________________________________________ Holy shit, it MAKES SENSE NOW!!! I love making theories by scratch.
So when we revealed Oswin, that probably led the traitor (assumingly Roswell rn) to tell Jack. This in turn, killed Oswin earlier. When he was dead in Day 17, it went earlier to Day 11. And because Oswin was dead, Benson vowed to keep watch of the mansion. AND THIS in turn caused Benson to lose sleep. And if you chose Path G whereas Oswin died early AND Tyson and Orlando dies, Benson couldn't handle the pressure no more. He DID pass out. So that's probably why he failed shooting Jack at the time, because he was tired af. RIP Benson.
And so during F, that's when Oswin only died, not really making Benson tired to miss the shot in F. RIP Jack! _____________________________________________________________
Anyways this was fun, me insisting that Roswell is a killer just because he killed Benson. XD (Also hi again, grizz)
The guns Dom's, Dean picks it up after being told by Thanatos and just leaves it lying around in his room. The knife is Oz's you can ask him about it during the questioning. Oz says he just left it lying around the mansion but doesn't know where it is.
Correct, Dominic's gun is also in play though at what point would Roswell be incentivized to go and retrieve it? We know from the sequence of events that Benson's movements insofar as letting Hoss into the library, back through the passage and upstairs would imply that he was the one pursuing and not the one that had been ambushed. With this in mind, the rationale for Roswell to even consider getting the gun falls apart, unless you can find another reason why he'd have a motive to do any of that.
As Cerberus said, the knife was Oswin's. And as we see from the crime scene, the way in which he was killed doesn't line up for someone like Jack who is not the best at stealth from the amount of branches he supposedly steps on through the woods when Dave is around. Additionally, he has at least two knives of his own; why would you suddenly swap weapons when you have no hesitation of using your own as-is?
Then I suppose the final sticking point is the Benson v Memphis match-up. We see already from the bad path ends that Memphis isn't too concerned with Benson when they confront one another in the mansion, which gets them their escape after Benson threatens to shoot Oswin instead.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm not saying you're right, but your reasoning is fundamentally flawed based on what's in-game already.
A- oh. I always thought that knife was Jack's... well... even then, Jack probably wouldn't just leave HIS knife when he killed Oswin. He probably found Oz's knife by luck and used it.
Can't have, Hoss's bad end day 6 means whoever is responsible would already have picked up the knife and jack isn't intrested in going near the mansion till he knows if bensons around.
Just passing down some wisdom, in case you know then great, if case you don't than hopefully you'll find it useful;
Something that I learned from a Phoenix Wright gameplay actually, but if you're stuck in a information because it doesn't appear to fit anywhere, or you can't think of an information that fits, try changing your line of questioning.
If you can't find a motive for X person to do something for example, change the question from "Why did they chose to do this?" To "Why did they had to do this?"
You don't have to do this all the time, but you could try it the next time you get stuck on an information, especially if it's a question; try changing the question itself.
Most often than not it might lead to possibilities that can be easily debunked, but even that can be useful. I sure hope it's helpful \( \)
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I just finished the update...
SPOILERS BELOW:
The scene with Dave hallucinating, thinking he was seeing his dad, when it was actually Tyson made me so happy, but I knew in the same exact moment what it meant was going to happen, and that reduced me to tears. It's officially the first time since I started reading the VN that I've done more than just tearing up a little.
This leads into the second thing I wanted to say. I'd known it for the last SEVERAL updates, and had been waiting patiently for confirmation of it... I knew Roswell was Thanatos' master. There were several things about Roswell that, throughout the story so far, felt strange to me and led to my belief of it.
The fact that Roswell had a condition where he knew he was going to die was one. My guess? He created Thanatos to use what time he still had to help secure answers for Dave's questions about what happened to his dad. After all, if he could keep going back in time, by means of both the vault and Thanatos, maybe he could bring Dave some kind of closure he never got? What better way to use the time you have left than to help a friend with the deepest wound in his heart? Bringing him to the mansion, where he had Thanatos waiting, made sense.
Similarly, but aside from the above point, there was the slowly growing connection between Roswell and Oswin. It went from "Oh, we don't know eachother", with it even being said when you initially question Oswin, to the photo with that message "I love you" that Oswin wanted Dave to give him. I don't know this to be factual (and heck, it probably isn't) but my personal thought is that Oswin was left in charge of Thanatos while Roswell wasn't there, with knowledge that he was coming back because he'd been through it before. And the picture he gives Dave that he asks Roswell to pass along, with the "I love you" message, was meant as a way to say he still cares even despite the fact he's being repeatedly put through this many times. The picture itself told me Roswell was more a part of things than Dave had been led to believe up to that point too.
The biggest clue for me though was Roswell knowing (in what was the path B timeline if I remember right) that Thanatos had baited Dave with the intention to knock him out after he'd handed over the medal. Yes, Thanatos could have just TOLD him that, but given how unhelpful Thanatos had been through the whole story, it seems more likely that Thanatos, at that point in time, was intent on just trying to get to the bottom of things his way, against Roswell's wishes, and Roswell was trying to put a stop to it, but fell short of being able to.
I openly admit a lot of what I've just said sounded a lot better in my head than it did trying to type it out and explain it, but it's around 3:30 in the morning as I'm typing this.
The TL:DR version of it is, for the past three or four updates now, I had figured out Roswell was Thanatos' master, simply because several things about the story left me focused on him during the last few updates, and, the more I did, the more sense it made. Despite knowing now that Roswell is Thanatos' master though, it doesn't make me hate that rat any less. I say this somewhat jokingly, but a part of me is annoyed with Roswell for creating Thanatos with as much of an attitude as he has.
The only other thing that worries me about knowing Roswell is Thanatos' master is the fact that I think I also know why the deaths keep happening too... I don't have a solid answer for that just yet though. Interestingly enough, Dave dying leads to what will tell me whether or not my thought process is correct or not. Especially now that I know Thanatos belongs to Roswell.
My Guess: (SPOILER, dude.)
Keeping Dave and the rest alive always fails because of the traitor among them. And both Roswell and Thanatos knew this. They can't do anything as long as the traitor among them is hidden. I played the DEAN Route first and there was one very disturbing vision when Dave was bleeding running through the Wood (day24) but Dean (while holding a gun!) found him, saying prett coldly something like: So it's you. Instead of "I finally found you!"
On the real Day24 Dave experienced two vision of his Dad while bleeding: The second was obvisoiuly Tyson. The first Dad-version however walked away too fast for Dave to keep up, meaning the first Dad Illusion was potentially Dean who found Dave first but abandended him because he was part of Memphis gang. I also suspected Dean being the potential murderer of Berson because Dean is left-handed. If Dean is the traitor, it also makes somewhat sense for Roswell to kill Dean on Day6; not only to trigger Dave's capabilities but also potentially killing a traitor , if Dave fails with his first password. Basicly a WIN or "at least the traitor is dead" situation. What speaks against Dean being the traitor is Thanatos behaviour towards him. "Keeping his options open".
I'm definitely curious to see if either of us finds any more info that leads to our theories or thoughts being proven right in the future.
Well i played a few other routes and the patreon version.... so
[SPOILER]
I turns out the MASTER was indeed Roswell and he was behind the murder on day 6 and Benson. Benson let Roswell kill him to save his friends. Pretty obvious in hinsight as Benson is an assasine who cannot be killed by a bunch of halfgrownups except he allowed any of them to murder him. Route A; Also the group agreed to send Dean into the woods (with Oswin) instead of Dave or Roswell. So aside from the sus vision with Dave and Dean (who is holding a gun) in the woods, there is no more evidence towards my traitor theory. Even more disproven; Dean always dies if you fail the password on day 10...
A nova versão do jogo já está disponível no patreon
I normally don't leave comments, but this story is too good not to leave one. Sincerely wow....just.....wow! This new update hit the feels like no other and I can't wait to see what the next update brings!
I dunno how to get to path b 💀
Basically get all of the passwords and tell everyone about Oz.
thanks dawg
Day 24 was like half an hour long, but I'm EXHAUSTED
Ah yes... emotions. Time to eat feelings.
Crying screaming pulling hair
Grizz know how to build up emotion to the extreme, isn't him?
Yes but it makes stuff interesting
That ending to Day 24 has left me speechless.
Also SPOILERS so please do not click on the view more button if you don't want to be spoiled. You've been warned.
There are so many questions now lmao. I'm sure everyone is now thinking : Is Dave now actually dead? What happens now? I mean cuz the way it was shown really made it look like Dave was dead. But if the memory of the house burning is still going to happen, then shouldn't Dave still be alive?
But one thing I am curious about if the outcome is invetible or of it can actually be avoided after experiencing it for the first time like on Day 11 with Oswin after he injects Dave . I've tried a few times so I kinda doubt it now but it's a thought I just wanted to throw out there.
Anyway, freaking excellent job with this Grizz. You've taken my breath away with this. Keep up your amazing work and I hope your planning on making more VNs in the future after Password is finished. Your work is just that good.
How to unlock cg between Dean hot tub and date scene... i played all character route but only this one still locked
Its a NSFW of dean and dave that will be getting removed. Grizz might of disabled even getting it now until it gets removed from the gallery.
Which path got updated
Day 24 path A and B
I'm speechless
I- Spoilers i guess, day 24 do not enter unless you wanna ruin everything for yourself :p
Btw I love everything, thanks Grizz!
I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE I- I WASN'T EXPECTING IT AND OH GOD WHAT NOW??? I'M NOT- THEN?
So path "A" it's the good one? but then- we won't get other days? it ends on day 24? Do we see what's next from someone else's point of view? maybe the one that we choose or the "master"?
I'm not sure and I can't wait until next month I- It felt like the first time I saw someone dying in the vn (It was Dean, I used to love him), it was devastating
I don't know what to say anymore, this is great Password has won the first place in MY favorite vns, I still have a lot to experience but for now, I have to say I love everything!
Well... I got scared with David's new sprite like I saw it as a corpse, without color and as a ghost, but then saw him change position and everything was "better"
I saw the ending of Day 24 coming but damn that buildup was beautiful.
How do I get Deans good end
On what day?
What a horribly brilliant, Adastra-like ending to Day 24! X'o
! (KINDA?) HUGE SPOILERS FOR DAY 24 PATH A OF THE NEW UPDATE (They're subtle so not EXACTLY HUGE spoilers but still, a warning regardless). PLEASE DO NOT CLICK UNLESS YOU'VE PLAYED THE NEW PUBLIC BUILD UPDATE
. !So, it really is HIM, huh?...
I don't want to say anything, but that felt a little too obvious... Def heartbreaking update anyways, this is by far one of my favs because it just- portrays the whole thing so well?
Thanks for this masterpiece Grizz <33
New public build - https://www.patreon.com/posts/public-demo-a0-2-71978719
I swear to God Grizz,if anything happens to Dave there will be bloodshed 😂
Jokes aside this is probably one of the best VNs I have read so far, the story and characters stick to me so well and I fear for their well being often XD.
Also I've noticed alot talking about different Paths as well such as A, F, G or whatever and I'm not entirely sure on what this means since I had just finished Path A of Sal and Dean's route. If someone can enlighten me on this I'd really appreciate that.
Keep up your excellent work Grizz, so far this VN has been an amazing read 😊
paths:https://www.patreon.com/posts/on-topic-of-42690779
F and G are done from other paths just failing the day 19
E is path D but aim to kill everyone as fast as possible
Ah KK , thanks fam
do the characters have official MBTI types?
i have heard that the ones on PDB are inaccurate
Tiny bit spoiler I realized aka, it's just me doing another blah blah XD and I haven't played the new update, this is my thoughts about the whole game so far leading up to the update for Day 22
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1. The story of the Three Little Pigs might just be a red herring, but I found something interesting. The first pig dies from sickness and something about a rabbit giving the pig chocolate. The second doesn't die but turns into the rabbit. The third survives. Sounds familiar? Now if you replay the game, keep the story in mind, and compare it to the order of character deaths, events, and endings too
if there's an order, is Roswell meant to resemble the first pig? You'll know what I mean if you got far enough. Is Sal supposed to be the second one? Given one of the bad endings, he did join Orlando's father to save Dave. And finally, is Dave the last pig in the story? I'll tell you why in a few.2. After playing through the game multiple times, I just noticed the Path G which took me by surprise because all I know that there are only these paths; Path A, B, C, D, E and F. Each with different outcomes depends on the route you take
Who you pick for the Medal Huntand your choices are, like Florencia said.3. Here we go, the reason why I think The Three Little Pigs story is a reference to the characters I mentioned above, especially Dave is because of Path G. The ending of Path G surprised me by the way, it seems like Florencia had already met Dave before, he even felt like they had, and like those past memories that Dave lived through, they really had met before and even Dave's dad knows her, but. Like Reginald would say, not in this timeline.
4.Here's what I think. David's father, Roswell, Dean, Hoss, Sal, Tyson, Orlando, Benson, Oswin, possibly Thanatos too and the rest of the cast. This is how the order of deaths happened and I'm not talking about just their main deaths before you figure out the password for each character. At least that's how I think, I know there's probably not an order but the patterns are plain to see did you've played it for like, ten times.
5.Dave being the only one who is remembering ever death and past memory, he's the first important one, and Roswell somehow getting roped into all this meaning he could be the second life that Thanatos's master wants to save. Sal could be that too, based on his backstory alone. It can't be Tyson because, well, he's just Ty. No offense to the Tyson lovers. Dean, Hoss and Orlando is a variable, even though Orlando has access to the Vault. Hoss has already been to the mansion and I think he's hiding something, especially when he know now that the set he went to was apparently some sort of recruitment thing, but Sal had met Memphis before and he probably just sent him there to investigate that place, and then Dean. Thanatos literally went to Dean "just in case", is it also possible that he could be the second one that needs to be saved?
6.Who is Thanatos's Master? We can rule out a few, that being Benson and Tyson. Which leaves the possible ones, Oswin is the first on my list because the game wanted to be obvious at first but we soon learn that it isn't the case, Dean because, I have a feeling it could be him but he doesn't remember? It's not possible tbh. It could be in a different timeline for all we know. Hoss is, well, he's one that I don't expect for at all. I'm not too sure about Sal because he literally was manipulated, by Hypnos, and who is/was Hypnos? Yeah, it was Thanatos's first name. Orlando has a lot of knowledge about games, and it being some sort of murder mystery in a mansion, maybe it could be him? But there's not much hints to know if it was him. Then Roswell, he's already on the thread and he could die at any moment but I have a feeling that he knows more, and he's more secretive than Hoss and Tyson. And we can't say it's Florencia too, you'll know why if you read it. My final guess that it could be... Dave? Once he starts to remember, and all leading back to the past. He was meant to die, and then that started a lot of chain events, much like what is happening after you[Dave] solved the first death in the game. Then the events happen slowly until you reach Day 17.
Umm yeah there's a lot I talked about and I'm pretty much as confused about it myself. I already memorized all the passwords of the game so it already triggers when it's time to put one on the Vault lol.
so like yeah that's it haha ;w;
So... I'm in the process of actually going through and getting caught up on all routes with all six characters because I was bored and wanted something to do today. Something I hadn't bothered with aside from Tyson and Orlando up to now, due to me not having wanted to repeatedly go through the story over and over, and I appear to have hit a snag.
I'm currently trying to get through Sal's different routes, but, even though I'm doing what I'm supposed to with them, Routes C and D keep getting redirected back to Route A. I save once I have the path set, but a few days later, I save again and the save shows I'm back on Path A. Same occurs for me trying to play Path D.
Similar to how Paths F and G are unobtainable for Tyson, are Paths C and D unobtainable for Sal?
Correct.
Ah! Okay. Noted. I wrote my other post not realizing you responded to this one.
Spoiler maybe just to be safe
How many words can you use to ask or interact with the owner of the house? So far I found 12 words, with 2 pairs of different words but have the same dialogue and 1 word if repeated gives a different dialogue than the first time you use it. I just wanna let on what I know because maybe I left some words out because it might impact some parts of the story and dialogue otw, and maybe gib me a hint about the amount of words in total ehe
[SPOILERS] Someone made a list!
Oh, thank god. I'm not crazy. LOL. I remember seeing a google Doc a LOOOONG time ago that had a list of questions you could ask Oswin, but I could never find it. This appears to be a different document entirely but I'm asuming it's referring to the old document.
Ah, actually, after a bit of digging I found [SPOILERS] a copy of the old doc too… 😅 (Not sure if it has any questions not on the other list.)
Thank you so much for this and the people contributing to it, I think this might have helped me speed up on some thoughts on things
So, I have a bit of a theory to posit. It's about Dean.
But, something that might at least be entertaining to think about. It involves Dean being more than he appears to be, but a more positive spin on it versus the "Dean is secretly villain" theories I always see pop up.
Though, fair warning it's the definition of a crackpot theory so take none of this too seriously. Also, some story spoilers for various routes/paths/endings.
Simply put, Dean is from a rival family in opposition to Memphis' mafia. It's mentioned during his bad ending that he comes from a massive family of bears. What if that's a separate mafia family? David, knowing he's about to die calls in a favor to Dean's family. Mama bear agrees and after David's death, sends one of her sons to watch after Dave. He comes into Dave's life not long after David dies, in a way similar to a romance movie. What if that was planned? The reason he acts the way he does in the beginning of his route? He's simply playing the role of the Casanova he feels he's supposed to. Notice that the act drops around day 10 when he realizes just how fragile Dave's mental state is and that the flirty thing wasn't what Dave needed. This is also when he starts developing deeper feelings for Dave.
On Tyson and Orlando's route, he handles the date and breakup well. Realizing that Dave's feelings were elsewhere and maybe it's for the best in terms of Dave being happy. He's blindsided on the other three though, his mission is in jeopardy at that point and he'd started to have feelings for Dave.
Dean is far from the flirty, dumb, himbo people treat him as. He's smart, cunning, and capable with maybe the highest skillset in the group. He's calm under the stressful situations we've seen him in (path F and G) with C and D obviously lacking data. He's shown handling Oswin's revolver in the title art and chooses the close quarters fire axe as his weapon of choice in path F and G, so he can apparently fight. He never really directly involves himself in the group planning sessions, choosing to stay back and observe mainly. Look how often he's keeping watch over the group in the background. Think back to his behavior during some of the bad endings. In Roswell's, look how quickly he wants to get Dave away from that situation. The only ending he doesn't in some way stay with Dave is Roswell's (and his own of course) where Dave is under Tyson's care and they both leave the area, away from Memphis' influence.
For this, I'd include Dom as potentially being from the same "family", but undercover. The sheer fact a "Bad Ending: Dom" exists, means the guy has a good ending somehow.
OMGGGG DAVE IS RECALLING!!!!!!!!!!!! Cliffhangers be damned, I must contain and wait.
*cries in cliff hanger*
i just finished path A with Dean.... ooo boy goosebumps and feelings all over the place. That is one masterfully done cliffhanger
So, after playing the new update, I have some... Thoughts.
POSSIBLE SPOILERS? VIEW AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Where did the new sprites come from? (David's and Jack's).
A pretty big surprise indeed.
Does this mean we're going to get all the characters in this artstyle soon? While I don't dislike the artstyle, I still dunno how to feel about it. I do like it a bit, but I'm not too sure if it fits the game a lot.
This also brings up a question I wanted to ask Grizz for a long time.
Why are the side characters the ones with different eye colors and poses? Iirc, all Dave's friends' sprites have a "default pose" and black eyes. I may be thinking about it too much, but it was always weird how the side characters had more developed sprites than the main characters'.
This new build gives me a lot of hope, though. The story is coming to an end, and I am definitely excited for it. I actually also am quite intrigued by how the rest of the cast will look like with this new style.
Thanks a lot for bearing with me as usual!,
They've been getting reworked in the background. These are really old examples back from day 8 or before, the newer ones are on discord and i dont go there.
Orlando - https://www.patreon.com/posts/sprite-reworks-31963293
Hoss - https://www.patreon.com/posts/sprite-reworks-30027755
Sal and Tyson - https://www.patreon.com/posts/sprite-reworks-29670294
Here's a slightly more recent post as well.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/development-48736249
In that post you can see Dean and Roswell's new look and early sketches of the others. (Though each of them have progressed a lot since then, pretty sure Tyson is finished and the others as well by this point). All the guys will have eye color, various poses and expressions. The new title screens and recent cgs show off their final designs pretty well also.
And honestly, I think it'll just be an adjustment since we're used to the way the characters look after all this time. But I like the newer ones more at this point. Tyson for example isn't as wide as Dean or so fluffy now which fits how he's described in game better. Thin, unapproachable, and scruffy.
SANSWELL???
No updates
There is the update, Grizz just forgot to announce it. Check the download files.
It was updated here on itch just with no devlog
https://www.patreon.com/posts/public-demo-a0-70502150
What's in this update?
- Day 23 (Path A/Path B)
This was an easy-ish one to write if only because ultimately the update itself isn't all that big. Almost all of it is set-up for next build which... Well, you'll get an idea once you're playing likely. Expect a few revelations and some reveals but the next update is going to have more.
Ah, I knew I forgot something. I had my hands full fixing the patron build.
Wait is it just me or August 15 is Tsumugi Shirogane's bday-
And Password updates are always on the 15th-
Grizz what are you trying to tell us 👁️/j
august 15th is also kagerou day whats your point
Just played the game. and I guess I'll leave the review(Only played Tyson route for now)
Warning : This contain spoiler and a lot of personal opinion.
At first for inserting name, I thought it for mc name so I just put the first character that mc interact with , just to mess around and PFFTTTT, I love that interaction, I happen to repeat to input any characters name that appear until Liam and Betson which don't really give any special interaction, kinda sad but still NICE easter egg. I happen to pick Dean first because well, he's look better with mc compare to other and then Tyson come up , CHANGE SHIP WE GOING TYSON ROUTE , I mean the mc bring him and u gonna leave him alone? HELL NAH. I like how u make him stay in character and change him slowly, like how he's... *cough"* dumdum but caring a lot, does he's a tsundere type? H M M, anyway when It start pathing to path c(Because I don't know the pass yet), I think huh 2 characters dead but not Tyson, I save the game before the vault insert and after the 'incident', I happen to unlock the vault and go to path A, but I going back to path C, with in mind planning to get BAD ENDING but with Tyson Alive only #OnlyTyson , and oh man I regret it so much. Back to path A we go, when the questioning Oswin happen, I couldn't ask anything, I guess I'm too dumb, been writing a lot and man, it not working, hell I also ask "Theodore" but well I guess it doesn't matter. The whole backstory with mc,dad, and Tyson is heartwarming, I kinda want a full backstory mode with them only, just to feel more heartbreaking knowing the result what gonna happen *cry*. I also love how mc just anxious about the whole thing like in day 6 will happen again which is well, it totally not easy to forget, also love how it go back to the question Hoss/Tyson which is I think quite nice, and the whole pie thingy. It make ya feel the choice u made have impact even tho not much I believe. I guess that all I gonna say related to Tyson route, now talking about other.
I seen a Liam sprites and why he have sprites when he contribute like almost nothing? also Oswin, Betson, and Orlando's dad sprites look different compare to other, I mean other are just looking at ya with half legs gone, and they appear to have full sprites which is not consistent(Also it make Betson look smaller compare to other, IDK if he really small compare to other characters). Also the whole CG, I seen the early days it have colors and the latest days is... colorless, Personally I don't mind about it, Hell I prefer the colorless CG, just preference. Curious what's actually happen because of the inconsistent.
Other thing I wanna mention. the ost remind me of minecraft not sure why. Overall I think very good game. Not expecting this much content.
Side talk, long time ago I wanted to play this game but change mind because I scared if I'm too dumb to realize what the password are from reading the comment, but it actually not that hard when we actually pay attention at the time the incident will happen. Also.... where auto button? and also where I could buy the keychain? I wanted to buy the Tyson one If I have enough money. That's all my overall review for now. Hope the creator could answer some of my questions. Wish u the best Creator.
#TysonBestBoi
The Visual novels going to have an update where all the sprites get updated, its been in the works for a while which is why the newer sprites look different. The CGs being sketches was a patreon voted thing, the full colour ones would take longer so it was voted to do sketches and then finished later on.
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Liam gets a sprite because he's a certain tier of patron. Like the other custom sprites that'll be added over time as well.
Auto button will also be added back in eventually. It was removed as it was voted for the most part unused and the screen real-estate was already tight.
Will we ever get Password unused content? Just for pure curiosity, one day I'd like to find out more about the game and some scrapped ideas. Of course, I am not saying like, now, but it's definitely something that interests me.
There will be a post-mortem report after the game is out of beta.
This one is a variation on the one right after it:
Go Path B, fail day 10 password, then don't forgive Sal.
Quick question, Grizz. Does knowing Day 11's password have any effect on anything....
SPOILER
Other than knowing that Oswin had intended to inject you after Thanatos distracted you?
Only altered dialogue. Originally yes, but analysis on what enjoyers of Password actually want means an idea had to be scrapped.
Did the same apply to the Day 2 password? As of yet I haven't ever actually figured that one out, let alone what it does.
There's no Day 2 password.
1. Don't share passwords.
2. There was no plan to retain that after full release as it was for testing. There is nothing prior to that as it wasn't intended for the public to have it in the first place.
I hope I am not too annoying LMAO
quite the choice to assign kokichi to yourself
Not my fault if I read this in their voices smh/j
Is Sal canonly ace 👀
Canonically, he's a crocodile.
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I was wondering if anyone has made a compilation of all the information we have so far about the game?
I mentioned in a previous comment I was writing a fanfic for myself and I like to do things that make it as realistic as possible, and I wanted to make a compilation in text form of all the information we have to help myself before continuing;
(By compilation of information I mean general character profiles, description of characters deaths, profile of killers, timeline of events, things like that)
I should also say that I like organizing, so it actually feels good to organize everything, but also... It would too feel quite the waste of time to find out in the end that someone already made it or is making? So... Does anyone know?
If the answer is no one made or is making I might do it myself, though I have no idea how long that would take
(If someone did make one already please tell me where I can read it )/
If they had, it'd be news to me. I was considering for a while to create a wikia but the problem you run into is how people edit it and how spoiler free you can keep it. (Or really who draws the line where for spoilers)
The best you'd get is asking in the spoiler channels on the discord server given a few people have done their breakdowns but given I haven't 100% confirmed or denied anything as far as documents submitted by fans, it's still mostly guesswork.
I guess I'll do it myself then, I also checked the discord server and there were some useful information there (Along with some questionable comments-..)
I'll take care in separating the facts from my own speculations, the main reason I'll doing this is to compile information and not theorize after all; thank you for answering!
No probs! Poke me on the server if you're unsure of something and I'll point you in the right direction if it's in-game, or tell you if someone's made a wrong assumption somewhere.
I'd love having something like that, since I don't think anything like that exists. Kinda sounds similar to something I put together for Tennis Ace.
I'm currently writing it, and even though I don't plan on writing everything word by word, there's still a lot of information to gather; so it might take a while. As I said before I'm not sure how much time it might take
Also just to vent a bit, but I never realized how suspicious some of the lines are until I started transcribing them-.. I wonder what exactly I'm going to find out as I progress? Only time will tell
I've had my theory on the murderer behind this whole thing for a while, and the most recent update that was done has me more heavily leaning toward one character of the three that I thought the murderer could be. There's so much going on that I've found myself replaying routes multiple times to see if I spot anything that would give me cause to believe I was either right or wrong, but yeah, I'd definitely be interested in seeing what info you end up putting together.
oh haha funi game about ppl in house, oh murder mystry too? coolio
15 hours of gameplay later"WHAT THE FUCK IS HApening ples omg whyguhbgsli.bkhu d;kgjl'bm/lrkhn'
Could someone help me get into path F?
I read a comment saying that you need go through path A, and then not use the password on day 17, and that Tyson's route doesn't work.
I tried this on Roswells' and Orlando's route, but it didn't work-... I believe this one and G are the only paths I haven't gone through yet and from pieces I read in comments it seems to be so different; so it feels like I'm missing something really important
Do I have to, like... Get absolutely no affection with Tyson during the route? Help?
A branches to F if you fail the password on Day 17, B branches to G if the same.
Given Tyson auto-clears the Day 17 password for plot reasons, any other character should do.
Given there are no other checks, I'd be curious to know what issue you're hitting given by that stage the game kind of falls apart logically with who should be dead otherwise.
On my first playthrough I got the password right on first few attempts, but I got curious to what would happen if I got it wrong so I went back; but nothing actually happened so at the time I just assumed that Thanatos was lying or something?
I did see the scene of Tyson killing Orly by failing the password though, but it only worked for me on the paths where I reveal Oswin.
I wondering if it's a bug and perhaps I should reinstall the game..
It sounds like a bug. Failing the password auto-boots you to F and G unless you're on Tyson's route. You CAN put the password in on Tyson's route and see the password scene as well, which changes some dialogue but it's already auto-solved.
You can't do Tysons route at all for path F and G because Tysons route automatically skips day 17 password
Skips as in... The game doesn't give you an opportunity to put a password that day? For me Thanatos still guides Dave to the vault the same way of the other routes
You can still use the password on Tyson's route for day 17. The investigation will happen and you get the prompt to enter a password like would happen with any other route. You can get the CG and everything.
The difference is, when the other routes shift into F or G at the end of day 19, Tyson's won't. By being on his route, even if you get the password wrong, Dave will stop anything bad from happening naturally through the story. You're pretty much dealing with the problem directly since he's your partner whereas you ignore him on the other routes. Affection level doesn't matter either, that has no impact on the main story (so be nice to him).
Really all it should take to be on path F or G is not use the password on day 17 and be on anyone but Tyson's route. You're technically on F/G the moment the password isn't entered, but the game will show as A/B until day 20. Since, ya know, Dave doesn't find out until then that he's on a bad timeline.
I see it now, thank you!!
My Roswell Theory"
Obvious spoilers, dummy! I also made an Orlando Theory not too below. You can check it out if you'd like, I don't know.
Now that those pesky people that haven't finished the game yet have left, WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH YOU ROSWELL!!! YOU KILLED BENSON!!! WAAAAH!
Now, let's get to this theory that was purely fueled by my anger towards that gremlin.
Why he's a prime suspect? Well, given the fact that his health was deteriorating, I'd say he's probably a one-time tool for Memphis. Memphis wanted the vault. Didn't it occur to you that Roswell somehow hosted this vacation exactly where Oswin lives? That can't be a coincidence. Moreso, I think Memphis and Roswell (or by extent, his family) have arranged a deal.
AFAIR, the thing that is hiding inside the Vault is Oswin's failed work, a magical syringe that can cure anything possible (again, AFAIR). So, given that Roswell had some brain cancer, it would make sense that Roswell would team up with Memphis. After all, Memphis was only interested with the "time travel" mumbo-jumbo of the Vault. It's a fair trade for both parties!
Now let's see about Roswell's death in the 1st Password. His head is open wide by blunt force... by a book. Weird. But it's also another odd one out of the bunch. Hoss was killed by (what seems to be) Jack's hunting knife, the same knife that killed Oswin in B & G. Dean was poisoned by not washing hands (or Orlando poisoned him), Sal was locked inside a freezer (although I'm sure this was Hypnos/Thanatos' fault), and Tyson was ravaged by an animal of some sorts (Probably Dom's doings since Dean DID say it was probably a bear, and Dom is the only bear we have seen so far other than that bus driver Liam).
The reason why I brought up Roswell's death is because it was definitely inflicted by Oswin or Benson. Sure, Oswin did deny killing Roswell by saying he was in the lab all day, and later said he was hiding behind the shelves, but you seriously trust him 100%? Nah. Oswin is a dirty man himself (still gives me chills with the Thanatos reveal in the good timelines). It's possible that Oswin somehow knew of Roswell's head condition. He DID have possession of a robot that literally has access to every single dialogue of them in the known multi-verse. What's there to say that Oswin asked Thanatos anything about Roswell.
I don't really know what Oswin would do with Roswell's brain. To be frank, I'm not even sure if he did take Roswell's brain. But that's not important. We'll be talking about Roswin. And no, this is not a ship (maybe). Memphis and Oswin has talked in the past before. Maybe SOMEHOW Memphis knew about Oswin's desire to care for children. And sure after that disastrous trial where he killed ~100 children, Oswin was plainly ruined and vowed himself unfit for nurturing kids. Well, who else is a prime pick other than Roswell? Sure, both are boars which gains sympathy points, but that's the perfect way for Memphis to sneak in a mole. A mole Oswin would probably least suspect.
Now let's go to the point where I'm SUPER pissed. Benson's death in F. Roswell stated that Benson pulled a gun at him and fired, causing Roswell to shoot back and kill Benson. Dean literally said that Roswell couldn't have gotten a gun... UNLESS he stole it from Jack's corpse. Roswell was the only one that inspected the corpse (ISTG Dave if you only checked it yourself...) and who's to say he hid a gun from Dave and only revealed the remote detonator. And about the 2 gunshots the gang heard, who's to say Roswell's 1st shot killed Benson, then he fired another shot to his direction just to stage Benson's sudden urge to kill him. Roswell definitely did this because now that Jack was gone, Memphis was gonna have a hard time getting in with Benson still alive. And with Oswin PRESUMABLY being deceased during this time, it was a perfect opportunity when him and Benson were alone.
EDIT: Foolhardy for me to instantly cook up this theory without even going through the Interrogation. But Roswell is just too smart for this. He's answering so badly that Hoss found out. Sure you can say it's the brain cancer but I don't think that's the case. Sure it gave Roswell colds, fevers, harsh breathings, but I doubt that's the reason why his intellect decreased to the point of not answering straight and saying an "I don't know" when asked how Benson missed his shot. Not going to be fat shaming, but in a dialogue in Tyson's route when he was about to leave Dave behind, he described Roswell and Orlando as "two lard-asses" meaning they're... big-boned... yeah. So you'd think a target like that, Benson would miss? He literally shot Jack, which I'd presume is slim AND fast. If Roswell WAS just dilly-dallying and looking for some C4, you'd think Benson just killed him there and then? NOPE. Roswell is suspicious.
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Well that's all! I literally just came up this theory today, while typing (also did the same method with the Orlando Route). I find it hilarious I immediately made a Roswell Theory because he killed Benson, it's probably because I just find Benson so reassuring.
Thoughts? Try debunking me!
Try debunking you? Well... Alright.
You may want to re-examine those deaths you mentioned. Your memory of the crime scenes isn't accurate, mostly in the murder weapon but in an auxiliary manner the method of execution.
But let's talk about guns. There's a bigger problem with what you put forward about Path F.
We know Jack's method of violence is a knife. He's never had a gun, so to that end Roswell can't have picked one off his body assuming we're playing fair. Which then leads us with a problem of where Roswell got the gun. Mostly because we know that Oswin's gun was handed off to Sal before Jack's arrival, and Benson has his own.
Because we (as Dave) haven't seen the state of the room where Benson fell, we only have one testimony to go off. But I'm sure you can already see the problem in what was reported based on what we know of the weapons in play on that day already.
HMMMMMM... (Spoilers ahead again, buckar0o)
Eep, sorry about that misconception about Roswell's murder, I'll probably do a marathon run of Password again XD.
Well to be fair I'm kind of stumped. If there's 2 guns in the manor, then dang how did Roswell even get a gun to shoot Benson? Roswell said he "found it". And to be fair we (As Dave) has yet to see the crime scene.
Or idk, maybe Jack somehow had one for safety measures? I know he's a knife person, but when you're in a mission like invading a giant ass mansion housing a butler which is the biggest threat with guns? Yeah... i'll admit, this point is kind of weak...
But one thing's for sure, Roswell is just too suspicious. It's just raising too many red flags. As Dean (or the one that went up to investigate the gunshot, I forgot :((( ) said, Roswell had a gun when literally the only 2 known guns were with Sal and Benson. Does this mean Roswell had a gun all along? Possible. After all, I AM condemning Roswell as the secret killer right now. It's possible. And with the fact he was lying about it is just too suspicious, is it not?
Also I dug deeper during the interrogation. About where Roswell was during Day 17 (W-----L-) was happening. During those times when Dave was asking Tyson and Orlando, Roswell was somehow always in the foyer, seemingly watching Dave just go down the Vault. Maybe trying to figure out the pieces. He probably figured out that Tyson and Orlando are marked for death, y'know, them just yelling upstairs and shit, and Dave just frantically asking both of them. So when Dave failed this day's PW, Roswell hatched a plan for Tyson to get super pissed at Orlando, as well as finding a way for Jack to sneak in and kill Oswin.
It just aligns too perfectly as well. Tyson, having killed Orlando, will definitely look bad on him especially when everyone sees it. Knowing that Benson would shoot down anything that is a threat (just like with Jack in The Chase, but effin' missed), Benson would definitely shoot a ballistic werewolf that just murdered without reason. When everyone was outside witnessing Tyson covered in dragon blood, it was a golden opportunity for Roswell to let Jack in and end Oswin. This will obviously lead Benson in a sorry state. But sadly this didn't really make Benson tired.
And so when Jack returned to avenge Dom, he died to Benson's gunman skills. Roswell definitely thought "Fuck, how will Memphis get here if Benson still exists?" And so that's why Benson died. Roswell decided to pull out his gun and shoot the unsuspecting otter. This would give Memphis more of a chance to fight.
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Holy shit, it MAKES SENSE NOW!!! I love making theories by scratch.
So when we revealed Oswin, that probably led the traitor (assumingly Roswell rn) to tell Jack. This in turn, killed Oswin earlier. When he was dead in Day 17, it went earlier to Day 11. And because Oswin was dead, Benson vowed to keep watch of the mansion. AND THIS in turn caused Benson to lose sleep. And if you chose Path G whereas Oswin died early AND Tyson and Orlando dies, Benson couldn't handle the pressure no more. He DID pass out. So that's probably why he failed shooting Jack at the time, because he was tired af. RIP Benson.
And so during F, that's when Oswin only died, not really making Benson tired to miss the shot in F. RIP Jack!
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Anyways this was fun, me insisting that Roswell is a killer just because he killed Benson. XD (Also hi again, grizz)
The guns Dom's, Dean picks it up after being told by Thanatos and just leaves it lying around in his room. The knife is Oz's you can ask him about it during the questioning. Oz says he just left it lying around the mansion but doesn't know where it is.
Correct, Dominic's gun is also in play though at what point would Roswell be incentivized to go and retrieve it? We know from the sequence of events that Benson's movements insofar as letting Hoss into the library, back through the passage and upstairs would imply that he was the one pursuing and not the one that had been ambushed. With this in mind, the rationale for Roswell to even consider getting the gun falls apart, unless you can find another reason why he'd have a motive to do any of that.
As Cerberus said, the knife was Oswin's. And as we see from the crime scene, the way in which he was killed doesn't line up for someone like Jack who is not the best at stealth from the amount of branches he supposedly steps on through the woods when Dave is around. Additionally, he has at least two knives of his own; why would you suddenly swap weapons when you have no hesitation of using your own as-is?
Then I suppose the final sticking point is the Benson v Memphis match-up. We see already from the bad path ends that Memphis isn't too concerned with Benson when they confront one another in the mansion, which gets them their escape after Benson threatens to shoot Oswin instead.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm not saying you're right, but your reasoning is fundamentally flawed based on what's in-game already.
Also hi.
jsfnakjfnakjfnasjksfn thanks for the debunk. I just made the theory for fun (and partially because I'm mad Benson died)
A- oh. I always thought that knife was Jack's... well... even then, Jack probably wouldn't just leave HIS knife when he killed Oswin. He probably found Oz's knife by luck and used it.
Can't have, Hoss's bad end day 6 means whoever is responsible would already have picked up the knife and jack isn't intrested in going near the mansion till he knows if bensons around.
Just passing down some wisdom, in case you know then great, if case you don't than hopefully you'll find it useful;
Something that I learned from a Phoenix Wright gameplay actually, but if you're stuck in a information because it doesn't appear to fit anywhere, or you can't think of an information that fits, try changing your line of questioning.
If you can't find a motive for X person to do something for example, change the question from "Why did they chose to do this?" To "Why did they had to do this?"
You don't have to do this all the time, but you could try it the next time you get stuck on an information, especially if it's a question; try changing the question itself.
Most often than not it might lead to possibilities that can be easily debunked, but even that can be useful. I sure hope it's helpful \( \)
Hold up when did Password have an unofficial Russian translation-