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Yep I'm addicted to this game my top 1 rn <3

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This game is a ton of fun, and I cant wait until the next patch in a few days.

That being said, i have some theories as to who the murderer is.  If you have not done all of the scenarios as far as you can take them, some of this may come as a spoiler.

Note:  I am assuming for simplicity that the killer is the same in all scenarios.









Prime suspect - Jack

You may all recall the white thing in the woods.  Though we may not know exactly who/what it is then...it was most likely Jack.  We know he has been in the woods for about week, and he is a shady character.  He pulls a knife on Dave and chases him all the way to the mansion.  While he has not been visible in story that long...his unknown part in the story makes him a prime suspect. The knife he pulled could have been the one used to kill Hoss and Oswin, or have been in the Floor with Sal, and could have been used to slash up Tyson.  We also know there was an unknown figure in the mansion on the night Roswell dies.

One of the big incriminating clues that this will be the murderer is Oswin's Hansel and Gretel story.


Second suspect - Orlando

I know this is going to surprise a lot of people, but Orlando could be the killer in every scenario (even his own demise).  Looking at Orlando's backstory, his family is in the mafia, and his family is looking to have him take over the family business after the vacation is over.  Usually in the mob, there is some sort of "test" when handing this type of thing over.  His test could be to kill one (or all) of his friends.

When you talk with Thantanos in the lab, he talks about how they obtained DNA of Orlando's dad, which also means Orlando could be programmed into the Vault.

A lot of the bad endings and the investigations that come in the good endings hint that almost everyone would let their guard down around Orlando because he is trustworthy.

On top of that, he can be tied to every one of the killings:

Tyson - claw marks mauled the body.  Sal also watched the incident between Tyson and Dave leading up to Tyson storming off.  If Orlando found out from Sal, that gives more than enough motive.

Sal - He knew early on about Sal's sleepwalking (which is evident in the Sal story).  Orlando also knows the freezer sticks, has access to the knife that was in the floor.  The reason it still makes sense here is you pass Sal off to Orlando ONLY.  If Sal were to be found dead, the only suspect would be Orlando, so he backs out.

Hoss - after Tyson thinks he kills Hoss, and Dave heads down to check, Orlando is on the way to the gym.  Orlando also has the most access to the knives.

Roswell - while there are no direct clues here, Roswell says he'd be safest around Orlando and would willingly turn his back to him.

Dean - This one is the biggest clue for me.  Before Dean dies, he goes to feed Dave a mushroom and Orlando swats it out of his hand.  Dean then picks the mushroom off of the floor and eats it which leads to his death.

Orlando's ending - this one is a bit of a stretch...but here it goes.  Say Orlando was tasked to kill Dave and friends.  When Dave tries to buddy up with Orlando, Orlando decides it is not worth it to follow through and commits suicide.  He is also smiling which would indicate he was happy with his decision.  One of the other awkward parts to this is in the bad ending, the vault is OPEN!   

Oswin & Benson - There is no real evidence for or against any of the characters with regards to either of their bad endings.


Third suspect - Oswin (aka OZ)

The reason Oswin is one of my top suspects is because when you read the letters, some of them seem to apologize and he did not mean for these things to happen.  My guess that the first couple of deaths were "experiments" to test Morphic Resonance.  He also knows about all of the secret passageways and secret rooms, has the chemicals used to kill Dean and Orlando in his lab, and has the house bugged.  Benson also hints that we should not be too quick to trust Oswin.  He also has access to a gun (he fires at Jack), and has the air gun thing to inject chemicals into people (which would have been used to kill Orlando).


Potential other suspects: Dean and Roswell.

The argument I have seen for Dean (and could believe) is that he is the jealous boyfriend, and kills whoever swoops in on you.  Dean's death could be chalked up to an accident.  One interesting side note for Dean, is that in no scenarios except his own does he help in the investigation.

Roswell has a similar side as Dean, except instead of boyfriend, he wants Dave as his absolute best friend.  He talks about wanting things to be the way they used to be (when he was Dave's only friend).  He also seems to be incredibly knowledgeable about just about any scenario. He knows the chemical to kill Orlando, about dangerous mushrooms that kill Dean, and about Hypnos (who controls Sal while sleepwalking).  He also was near the room when Hoss was found stabbed.  He also seems to know  about Oswin before he comes out (it cannot be coincidence they are both boars).  I believe there is also a reference that Florencia might be Roswell's mother.

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WOW!!! That is some amazing background research there. This somehow makes more sense of everything that's happened in the story's current build and also gave the possibility that almost everyone of them(except for Sal and Tyson) could've been the killer all along before Jack even popped out of the woods.

P.S. Hoss should also be in that list of potential suspects since Hoss could've used his ability to lie to his own advantage. For example, both him and Benson could've probably lied to you about their "deal" and Benson could've been helping Hoss kill them all(meaning Benson could be a suspect too).

Also by a few days, u mean tomorrow right? cuz the game updates every 15th of the month if u didn't know and last time I checked, today is the 14th of November.

If you take into account all routes the fact that everyone can die rather removes alot of suspects. Also pretty sure there's a second rat named hypnos that is thanatos's brother and thats who's been able to steal from the lab, move around unseen and talking to sal in the night. Having both thanatos and hypnos as names can't be just coincidence considering their mythology. Also would be fitting with the way oz talks about his sister as her being the most forceful out of the three since in the mythos its thanatos and hypnos sisters who are all about violent death.

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 so 'hypnos' really is another rat. And that's how sal doesnt see a face when he talks to it/him.

Just a theory but you dont use the name of two greek gods who are also siblings by accident and it would answer some problems.

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Dean actually ticked my susometer to an 11.


The fact that he talked about using climbing gear to scale the walls of the maze connects to how the frick did someone climb the museum's bookshelves. And when sal mentioned that dean had a hunting knife is just weird but that answered some of my questions when jack appeared with a hunting knife. Plus guilt. So when dean got poisoned he apologized for something.

 (Maybe becuz he didnt wash his hands or he didnt notice the ammonia)

Maybe guilt took over him to commit suicide because roswell mentioned if he died that quick he would have to eat more deathcaps to speed it up.

So suicide because of guilt?

Maybe im going to a dead end here cuz dean seems to be gentle at most. And im going to get shot out the airlock at this point. Btw i was with pink in electrical 

:P

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Haha imagine seeing orlando die again even with the code :')

That's rough buddy

P.S. dont follow the dragon boi to the basement

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An update in 2 days. FINALLY MY INSOMNIA HAS USES(there will be no sleep)

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Tyson in the shower -0_0-

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Evreytime Dave fails to use the password:

My inner DR Fan: *Insert Danganronpa body discovery music* *Ding Dong Ding ding*Monokuma: A Body Has been discovered!

rightttttt

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I I can't figure out Orlando's password for day 7 can I get a clue?     

Edit: nevermind I figured it out

Next update coming in less than 2 weeks! SO EXCITED

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Hi guys can anyone give me at least a hint on day 10 - 11... Please? Thanks

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its hidden in plain sight and in red

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you said that a lot of a lot of times already, didn't you?

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only about 3 or 4 time other people usually say the same thing, theres not really much you can say about it for day 11

day 10s rather self explanatory with the hints dave gives at the vault when he goes over what he's learned 'what is the worse case senario' is truely the best hint so you can't really add much to it 

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yup

I finally got hoss' cg

Did someone has the full soundtrack? I loved it and i want to download it.

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I haven't released it yet as some of the tracks are still need remastering.

Yeah, about that, I wanted to ask, why is the 'Sleepless' soundtrack so low in volume? I actually needed to max my laptop's volume in order to hear it properly.

Sounds fine to me compared to something like Not Dead Yet. Sleepless is meant to be a slightly softer song anyway but I'm not noticing any notable difference in volume with my settings at 50%.

I'm still trying to figure out the password for days 7 and 8

Welp to make things short, there are 3 of them, in which case 2 of them leads to a diff. bad ending while you need to find the other password in the different ending.

Clue: Roswell says the password the most in the diff. ending

did any now tyson day 11 password 

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The password on day 11 is universal, and if you’ve seen the lab scene, you can’t miss it

Do you know his day 7 password because I've been struggling with it alot..

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While I can’t just give it to you, I can point you in the right direction....on day 7, if Tyson dies, use the big red word in his epilogue in the vault on day 6 to save his life...once you do that, you’ll get a new scene and it’ll be pretty direct on if you wanna save him...if Benson dies on day 7, think about what Dave says about what the entire scene looked like. Hope this helps

Is there a password for oswin?

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dont tell people about him

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Can we just appreciate the soundtrack in the game? Something I started to take note of. And so I heard there will be more in the next update, so really excited to listen to them as well! 

(probably my most favourite track is Fatherhood, maybe how out of place, yet quiet it is)

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I really appreciate them,  they are so good and make me chill,  my favorite are soft walk,  fatherhood and remniscent(piano) ,  and always listen to them everyday. 

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I love these because they comfort me during my sad days: Purposed Stroll, Fatherhood, and Moonlight

How do I get the good ending(s) for Dean?

There are no endings yet, but as long as he’s alive, you’re good

Well how do I keep him alive?

Where is he dying for you?

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The Greenhouse via mushroom

If he dies there, then you need to go through the epilogue when he dies to get his password. It’s in bold red text so you can’t miss it...enter his password on day 6 when given the choice to go to the vault and you’ll get your desired result🐊

Find passwords in the text and use them in the vault, the first one is in the bad end.

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Technically there's no good ending yet, you have two paths, good one and bad one.


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You meant that he's dying from Sal hand? Or his first death? then yeah you can save him.. I won't gonna give you the password, but one clue.. Find a proper word for a thing that Sal does on Day 11 and you'll be on a good path. 

Second clue that word is hidden on a Sal path as well in one of hia conversation with Dave. 

Playing this game for year and still can't figure out how to unlock Hoss's second CG, try looking for a hint online and on itch's comment section. Sooo please give me a hint :') 

get high affection with him, you cant miss a single convosation with him

Ah yes, that's the thing I kept trying for year, but thank you anyway.

Basically spend ALL of your time with him. If the choice includes Hoss, do it, no if , and, or buts

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I finally got it yesterday, Apperenly all I need to do is named coffe cup from the start as 'Hoss' lol

Actually, no, you just have to spend all the possible time with him from the very first choice

how do you get roswell's 4th cg?

just playing his route its a natural progression one

just get to Day 10 and you'll see it at the start of the day

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Go to vault

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Spend time with sal and you need to get scene at pool where He  will hug you back anything else i would need to try again

How do i get the scene where he hugs you back at the pool again? I can't get it for some reason.

Spend all your time with Sal and successfully get the password correct at Day 10 vault 

day 10 go with sal to the vault and use the password

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There is a password for day 10, current build goes up to day 13 i think.Its said during the day, the hints you get at the vault are the best for trying to find it after all what is the worst possible outcome? 

If you're only playing on Sal's route, you likely won't find it. It's there but it's nowhere near as obvious as it's impossible to get on Path C and D on Sal's route.

anyone know how to unlock Hoss' third CG? can't seem to find it.

just play hoss's route its just a natural one with no conditions im pretty sure.

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Hey I'm curious but is their a word for Benson's death because no matter how hard I look I just can't find a word for this man and it's annoying. Also I love your game creator. UwU

Theres 3 passwords for benson, look for them in his bad endings they're hidden in the dialogue of his bad endings.

i am curious if there are any working passwords before the lead up to the first bad end

i should specify i mean during day 2-3 when you can go look at the vault

Short answer: no

Long answer: I dunno

I'm losing my mind can someone give me hint about Benson's password?

there's 3 if you found the first put it in and then read carefully what roswel says

Where do i look for these 3 in the first place as I'm still confused

You find one in each of the bad ends hidden in the dialogue. If you need help grizz did put something in hoss route and orlandos that can help.

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Max affection and spend all your time with him, you cant miss a single dialog with him pretty much.

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think it by high affection with dean and unlocking the kiss option

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Is Tyson have a good ending? D: I just have bad ending TT

it is possible to have everyone alive at the end of the current build, you need passwords to use a the vault to save characters. First password is in the bad ending watch it all the way through so you can find it.

Aaaaah thanks <3

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Hi I just restarted after a couple of updates and I cant change my name from dave anymore even after I type in a name it turns into dave what do I do now?

The MC's name can't be changed anymore.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/34020331

Back in a0.17 it was changed from fairly strong feedback and an impromptu vote. Essentially people wanted Dave to have his own name given how established of a backstory he had as it felt odd you could name someone who clearly had their own life.

oh thanks i thought my tablet was being weird 

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So on sal's route you don't need to type in the password on day 10? Since it'll continue on the "bad side" of the story. (Pretty short ik)

:DDD

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i cant thinkof anyway to save character!am i dumd or what?

;w;

the first password is in the bad endings so make sure you watch them all the way through

is it in order?

or is it the stuff that relate?

first password is in red the ones later are more hidden in the dialog

there more then 1 password?!

can you give me a hint? owo

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Read Mail after death

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Oh yeah...the knife from Hoss’ death...Jack had it...the gun that killed Benson...Oswin had it...the syringe...I dunno if it referred to the plant disease or whatever, (correct me if I’m wrong) but if Dave’s mom was a doctor of some sorts, it’s a stretch, but I’m not ruling out that’s she’s a possible part of this. Also I found it extremely strange that Oswin knew about Jack...not the fact that he exist and plot stuff...but it’s like he was “watching” over Dave...the friends didn’t find Dave until the gunshot and Jack conveniently escaped...I literally said I wouldn’t ask these questions in the last comment but I couldn’t help it :(

I...hmm...I dunno how to accurately express how I feel, but I will say that the turn this novel has taken is great. I love how Dave is starting to act and think like a real-life person. I like how I can sorta predict the next line of dialogue, like when Sal gives the talk and I was like “What if I don’t want to” and I clicked and Dave said it too. On the same note though, it really sucks that he’s having suicidal thoughts and stuff like his loneliness and overwhelming stress...as someone who knows what that feels like, I’m really looking forward to see how that’s dealt with. As far as plot goes, I feel like if I ask any questions, then I’ll be in for a world of mental hurt, so I’ll hold on that. But keep up the great work!!🐊

Loving the new update, great job!

One thing though, was on Sal's route but at the beginning of Day 13 the dialogue makes it seem like I was on Orlando's route as it says he is "more than a regular friend" to Dave and talks of them cuddling.

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I think thats normal, i think i was on the Hoss route and Dave said the same. So i think it may just be Dave contemplating about Orlando. And more than just friends i just assumed meant best friends.

Yeah that’s there for every route....I played Tyson’s and Sal’s and it was there

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Why not try it?

oh... I never tried this, thanks for the hint :)

Which name is it? (or hint) 

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Oh, sorry... I meant that I never tried to put Dave's friend names on the mug xD

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3 people helping with the game, otherwise nothing else that is so far known.

(one of them is helping Grizz with the soundtrack)

I thought the questioning(sorry) oswin wouldnt change the story(or game) but it did it added choice in specific scene 

I actually thought that too, yet I still couldn't find the question that changes something. Can you tell me which question it is?

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LITTLE SPOILER






Don't read this if you don't want any hint

Try question Oz about rabbits and see what happens later...

I guess wolfay  was referring to this...

Uh...do we need like keywords? I remember when the questions update came there was like a list of keywords for questions to actually be work...plz help

Still hints on Oz questions... don't read this if you still want to guess them by yourself...




Usually short words work, but sometimes you need to insert a longer phrase to be answered...

You can ask different things to him... the only word (in my experience) which added something to the story, though, was rabbits.

If you never tried, you can also insert the question: can you tell me a story, to hear an alternate version of Hansel & Gretel.

You can ask about benson, micology, secret passageways, the vault, the shack in the woods, medals, microphones (or cameras, it's the same) and probably other stuff... but this is all that I've found (if memory doesn't fail me) till now.

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Last time someone counted, there's about 80 odd questions he'll respond to.

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Thanks! I did the joke questions when I got there and tried asking about the people, but nothing more than that...guess I’m going back :)

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That was an AMAZING update, Grizz! Even though I know that Oswin hates bunnies, it didn't cross my mind that the antagonist (well, the hired hitman anyways, from what I understood) could be a bunny. Well played, Grizz.

Also, something that would've been cool to see would be that this update introduced DAVE's first bad end. Since anyone, including Dave, could die, this would've been a pretty good way to show Dave's first bad end. A potential scene that could've happened would be when Jack revealed the knife and you had to click a time-limited choice wherein Dave runs. Failure to click the choice, Dave's first bad end occurs. Or maybe it wouldn't kill Dave at once, maybe Jack slashes at Dave's chest multiple times before Dave starts to run. Then, due to Dave's injuries, Dave starts to slow down until he comes to a stop at a tree that was near the mansion. Jack decides to finish him off then and there, which results with Dave screaming that could've signaled Dean and Orlando so that his body is discoverable. But when the choice to run is clicked on time, the currect scene in the update plays out.

Sorry, I'm no game developer nor a writer but I just thought this could've been a pretty nice addition to the update haha. You most likely already have a hard-hitting bad end for Dave written down so I'll just wait until that day comes.

Again, incredible update! Love your work and I can't wait for the 15th of November to see how the story plays out, now that everyone can be aware of the danger in their situation. Deeply appreciate all the time and effort you put into this!

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Im losing my mind trying to find the passcode for day 10 to avoid the *BAD* and *BAD* happening. Apparently its one of the words that is said throughout day 9, but ive been at this for literal hours trying at this point more than 100 words. I THINK its a noun, since every other passcode ive found is a noun. Can I get a hint? Which route to look in? Some kind of relation? I dont need the exact word, just something more than "Check every word on every route of day 9, some words repeat and its one of those"

Whoever told you Day 9 is wrong for starters.

The whole point of Dave's investigation on Day 10 is to guess the password on that day, so you should think about where his investigation takes him and what things come up. It's also not tied to any route so you shouldn't worry about missing it for playing the wrong route.

No wonder I couldnt find it, thank you.

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I know that feeling, I tried more than 100 words like you...but my problem was that I missplelled the word, and LITERALLY  was the first one that I tried, my English is not the best...

Is There a way to get the hoss cg? The second

You need max affection, so spend all your time with him. The one i kept missing is going after tyson at one point and missing a chance to talk to hoss about stuff.

OH MY GOD THE UPDATE WAS AMAZING!!!
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I can't believe I didn't think of a rabbit during the times I was trying to figure out who the white thing was. Despite the huge chunk of solved questions, I somehow think that the update was a bit shorter than the rest, since Dave got injected and passed out before night time. A new character would've made sense as the killer, but some might forget this little detail. Jack was the killer but not the main suspect because he is being paid to "do the job", which is kill everyone. Also, it means that there is someone or something paying him to kill them all and only that, because Jack also mentioned that he just came in a week before. Despite everything, I honestly wished Day 12 ( Bad Timeline ) came out today too, but I understand if you didn't have enough time to finish it. Thanks for the great update! (I'm literally listening to "Purposed Stroll" right now)

I actually think a spoiler for this is not quite bad. Becuz it only builds my hopes up :DDD

(Only my opinion tho)

Then I will gladly tell you that the lack of NSFW (18+) content is made up by the awesome storyline. I SO can't wait for the next update.

Anyone know the royalty free guitar track from way back when it was up till day 5? I miss it a lot and if someone knows what track it was from or a link, and I’m not certain if it was royalty free or not at this point, but I recall it being used in others videos a while ago with no links towards anything

I will wait as much as I could today. Hope it comes early again.

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